Beta 3 Thoughts!

[Lito]

Beta 3 is out!

I for one am thankful that the lag issue was resolved, and fsd will not be combat only.  I'll be looking forward to less commrage.

[Jefe]

new hera and rebirth = win.

[Uranium - 235]

Changelog?

[a civilian]

Changelog?

Changelog is here.

[BobTheJanitor]

The changelog, the quick version:

o Hera's cool. Some other maps got fiddled with.
o None of the overpowered marine weapons have been changed.
o None of the nerfed alien weapons have been changed.
o Nothing has been done about spawncamping in combat.
o This does not bode well for any major changes in future betas, or many more future betas at all before final release.

[Lightning Blue]

I'm back to refusing to play NS:SpawnCamp.  :rolleyes:


The new hera is very bleh. Looks like a rushed job all over.


Oh and hi AO!  

[LzX]

i don't like 3.0... it doesn't have the classic feel at all...  

[Lightning Blue]

Back to 2.01 and LM for me, sadly (Archi will be happy  :p ).

[ANeM]

Beta 3 feels more like a mappack than a new build.
Oh well, back to not playing NS for me.. or 2.01 with LB and Archi..

[lolfighter]

O Combat respawning change: only 1/4 of the team can respawn at a time (waves last 5-11 seconds, depending on team size). This reduces Combat game length significantly, and gives much more importants to player death.

And here I thought one of the complaints was about the long respawn times...

[Venmoch]

Woo! Longer to respawn because I got my butt bitten off because I'm the base engineer in combat. I do all the useful stuff. Like WELD!!!! the CC and armoury. Oh and I usuallly lob nades around.

[/SARCASM]

[Lito]

that doesn't work because you didn't open with a [sarcsasm] tag, noob.

Yes, i'll still play at 2.01, but when the commrage gets tough, the comm goes >.

btw, venmoch, what is it with you and night-vision? (a la LzX's sig)

[Geminosity]

just had a quick go and all i can say is... what the heck happened to the fade blink??? o.O
blink-hopping is pathetic now ><


edit: this is the first time I've really played since 2.01 so most of the changes in 3.0 let alone beta 3 of it are new to me =P

[BobTheJanitor]

Blink has been changed to 'stroll' in 3.0. You don't so much go from point A to B very fast, so much as CRAWL there... If you think that's fun, wait 'til you try the new acid rockets! The devs have replaced our normal acid with new citric acid!  LOOK OUT MARINES, IT STINGS IF IT GETS IN YOUR EYES!!!

Also, gem, you must play on the server more. I'll not be convinced that you're real until you shoot/bite me!

[Grimm]

Aye, Gem needs to get on the server more. Along with a handful of other forum/irc regulars that I never see in game.

On 3.0: Off the top of my head, two good things have come out of it: Lerk flight and the Marine structure distance thing. Other than that, I'm stickin with 2.01 for NS games.

[Sancho]

Has anyone found comming to be a bit buggy?  I had a lot of trouble in b3.  I recycled one building and then couldn't click on any other building until it was finished, and had a lot of trouble dropping medspam.  Overall it was just too choppy on my 1.0 ghz comp.

[holy_devil]

sancho: you can't drop meds ON players anymore(rarely if ever) and you have to click on another building after recycling something to be able to resume commanding

3.0b3: not enough was changed to really change the gameplay of NS, elec is now the main strat due to mines being 4 imo, can't cover structures as easily now, and they are easily killed (20 health)

Combat is complete crap now(not that it was much fun in b2), i'll be spectating a lot more, not respawning this month isn't my idea of fun.

[Geminosity]

I was checking the server a little while ago and it was dead =3

I might stroll by later, though I'm not sure what to do now they've utterly kicked hell out of my favourite mincing machine's manouverability... on the other hand they've become more tank-like and I was surprised how fades can shrug off guns even easier than before o.O
they seriously need rename this scything creature... I'm thinking 'onos' would be a more accurate description of the way it's headed while the current onos could be called 'omg' =D

edit: it's my post and I'll cry if I want to ^^
P.S. LB, any chance of changing the emote triggers? I seriously don't like the cat piccy nor losing my precious ^^ to that weird chuffed-looking yellow ball =P

[Uranium - 235]

Hera is awful now. It looks... well, ugly. The Command Closet is just terrible, the lift into Cargo Bay is SUPER-Tacky looking, the water is icky, it's all just... bleh.

Kestrel is probably number 1 for the worst, most unneeded changes ever, though. It truely sucks now.

[BobTheJanitor]

Hera has a nice 'ooh' factor for the changes, but looking at it level-headedly there are some obvious problems. Tons of res in easy range of MS. Yeah, the command closet sucks, so you reloc to cargo. Don't even need a welder or any effort for that now. Then you take double through the easy new passageway, send one guy down to maint access to get that new node. Get reception and you can siege double OR the new outside-of-archiving node. The long U shaped glass hallway was changed to allow even quicker access to reception. The way I read the mapping guidelines, maps were SUPPOSED to be designed like that, to make it take TIME to get from one place to another.

The double siege from processing was FINALLY fixed by moving the hive back a wee bit (thank god) but all the other rather needless changes have made this map a marine's dream.

Edit: Oh yeah and kestrel is laughable. The new room up above MS allows a perfect launching pad for skulks into the CC pit, or for xenociding, or to just camp up there and wait til a stupid marine comes up the ladder.

And the new areas in rebirth haven't really done much to counter marines not moving out. Take out the shooting ranges, and we'll talk. Right now you can camp in the far corner opposite the CC and have enough time to kill almost anything that comes in. =/