Had I seen this yesterday I would’ve responded earlier. I was present during that game, so the accusations you claim were brought against you Dec were probably made by me. I’m not blaming you personally since comms can’t force players to anything. But nothing ticks me off more than double standards, in particular, rules that I’m forced to follow and yet other people apparently aren’t. Just to set the record straight, I’d have no problem if the spawn camping rule wasn’t in effect; it’d be no different than when I play on other servers where it’s allowed (encouraged even). I can’t remember everyone playing in that particular game: Decimator was comm. for the marine team, and the two players in question at the time were FORCE and [ICECREAM]Jerry (I think it was jerry, icecream tag for sure). On the alien side I can’t really remember (me, DHP, others), but that’s irrelevant.
Our main (and only) hive at the time was Pressure, although during this scenario a gorge that was outside near coldturn eventually dropped Hama. Both force / icecream had pretty decent aim, of course we only had skulks at the time and were fighting hmgs. Once our spawn cue started to get clogged up, about 5 of us were dropping in one at a time. Marines had maybe 2-4 guys outside in the hallway. Icecream went right inside the hive, made a left and hugged the wall, then proceeded to spawn camp our whole team with his HMG for what seemed like at least 2 minutes. I’m sure anyone who was on the alien team can verify this information. There was really no point in trying to do anything, his score was at least 26-5 at this point. His teammates spent about a minute or two setting up turrets outside the hive which faced the hallway moving in. So even if you didn’t spawn on Icecream’s screen to die, you were probably right in the hall way and lasted 2 seconds before the turrets insta-killed you. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t recall anything at all ever attacking the hive with the exception of an occasional stray bullet all this while being spawn camped. After every player on our team had been spawn killed twice I basically gave up and began typing in all_say asking why Decimator didn’t warn his team about spawn camping our hive, as I’m sure he is well aware of the rules and here we are with this post. Maybe he did warn them and they didn’t listen; only their team would know. DHP was also being spawn killed, but for some reason did nothing to resolve the issue, I thought he went afk or something. No one was warned/kicked/banned and the hive eventually went down when the rest of the marines moved in and our team had given up. If you don’t think my complaint was justified, please speak up.
What’s the solution to that problem you ask? I really couldn’t tell you because with the rules in place nothing is clear cut. No matter how you look at it there IS gray area. I can wax spawning skulks and still say I’m covering my team, it’s quite possible as Guen described the exact scenario. The hive CAN in theory be sieged from outside around the bend, but if no one is facing the hallway entering the hive you’ve got little chance to stop an onslaught of skulks that will spawn and come straight for you while your team builds. If you cover the hallway without shooting the hive (I don’t think it’s possible if you’re out by the RT) and kill someone who spawns there, you’re effectively spawn camping are you not? I won’t even question entering the hive and killing spawners because that’s just obvious. But are we to assume spawn camping is legal in this scenario? How about 4-5 guys spawn camping while 1 guy builds pg / tf / turrets / waits for siege upgrade / siege cannons? That’d be ‘an active attempt to siege the hive’ (albeit at a turtles pace) would it not, and thus clear all 4-5 guys of the spawn camping infraction correct? I’d just like some clarification so I can stop worrying and start playing the game.
Topic: Pressure Control (Read 13863 times)
