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December 21, 2004, 10:54:21 PM
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rad4Christ

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A few months ago, I ran into a site that dealt specifically with pornography as an addiction, and checked it out, expecting it to be this churchy, smarmy, pray about it thing. What I found was a bit different.

At XXX Church, you'll find everything from their motto, "Number 1 Christian Porn Site", to videos about Pete the Porno Puppet, and how to Save The Kittens.

It has an accountability software you can download, places to talk to other ppl, all kinds of resources. I'm not trying to get a conversation started about the legitimacy of pornography, or any of that sort, but if you are struggling with it, I'd recommend checking it out. And if you don't really care about that stuff, check out the commercials and the Wally awards, they're a good laugh.
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December 22, 2004, 01:27:59 AM
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*chuckles* What I find is funny is the lack of replies to this, in any shape or form.  Maybe they dont find you interesting, Rad4.
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December 22, 2004, 01:56:38 AM
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everyone's too busy wanking/fapping to reply

December 22, 2004, 03:51:19 AM
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Interesting site...  You don't mind me linking the FHF forums do you?
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December 22, 2004, 03:59:52 AM
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Urgh. It's funny how they're making money based on the things they stand against.

Masturbate too much? Buy a save the kittens t-shirt for $15!
Look at porn too much? Spend $975 for one person or $1,750 two people to get it sorted!

Excuse the blasphemy, but jesus :Ding christ. How can you charge someone $975 for a "porn addiction" (Something that isn't an addiction at all)?


Now throw in that the rest of the site is either them being arrogant or smarmy, throw in a few "WE KEEPIN' IT REAL FOR DA KIDZ" and all you have left is a pretty funny ironic website name.
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December 22, 2004, 04:10:53 AM
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Urgh. It's funny how they're making money based on the things they stand against.

Masturbate too much? Buy a save the kittens t-shirt for $15!
Look at porn too much? Spend $975 for one person or $1,750 two people to get it sorted!

Excuse the blasphemy, but jesus :Ding christ. How can you charge someone $975 for a "porn addiction" (Something that isn't an addiction at all)?


Now throw in that the rest of the site is either them being arrogant or smarmy, throw in a few "WE KEEPIN' IT REAL FOR DA KIDZ" and all you have left is a pretty funny ironic website name.
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Porn is definitely an addiction.  You try to just kind of never look at porn again!

I assume the costs are for some kind of counsoling, but I'll defininately give it too you that any costs seem kind of odd for a church site that is supposed to be trying to help people...  If I was qualified to counsul porn addicts I would be offering it for free, but unfortuneately you would be unable to find a less qualified person.  <_<
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December 22, 2004, 07:53:48 AM
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*chuckles* What I find is funny is the lack of replies to this, in any shape or form.  Maybe they dont find you interesting, Rad4.
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I wasn't expecting people to say "OGM, thank you rad, I've been masturbating constantly for the alst 12 hours, and I want to stop." Pornography is a real issue that people face, and I thought I'd place a link for people to go to for information on ways to overcome. This is a personal issue with people, not one to discuss openly. Yet, it is a major problem among teenagers and young adults, and most people are afraid to address it. If there are 20 replies about how stupid it is, and how much of a ripoff it is, yet one person is helped by it without me even knowing, then it's worth it.

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Urgh. It's funny how they're making money based on the things they stand against.
Masturbate too much? Buy a save the kittens t-shirt for $15! Look at porn too much? Spend $975 for one person or $1,750 two people to get it sorted!
Excuse the blasphemy, but jesus :Ding christ. How can you charge someone $975 for a "porn addiction" (Something that isn't an addiction at all)?
Now throw in that the rest of the site is either them being arrogant or smarmy, throw in a few "WE KEEPIN' IT REAL FOR DA KIDZ" and all you have left is a pretty funny ironic website name.
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Granted, the counseling money is high, but some people are pretty bad off, and for some serious counseling by someone who "specializes" in dealing with the specific problem, it might be an average cost, I don't know. As for the tshirts and stuff, I think they're funny, and they get the message out to other people with a problem in a way that word of mouth never would.

As far as it being arrogant and smarmy, I think you're really missing the boat. If arrogance lies in the fact of their hate mail, or by their matter of fact writing, I'd say it's because thay want you know people are against it, in the religious community and the secular. THey're being hit on all sides, but they are following the path set before them. And let's face it, when you're dealing with a touchy issue such as pornography, there is no "light" way to deal with it. Yeah, they're out there, but they're trying to do something to help others, but all most people want to do is defensively tear it apart. Try looking past the cheezy commercials and odd catch phrases. There are prayer boards, where you can know that someone out there is specifically praying for you. And software where you can have someone else keep you accountable. Or just a good bit of information to help guide you to a place where you can overcome.
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December 22, 2004, 09:55:08 AM
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1/2 of all divorces in the US involve pornography as one of the reasons, and 15% of porn users develop sexual disorders as a result of it. (Source.)

Harmless my foot.

December 22, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
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1/2 of all divorces in the US involve pornography as one of the reasons, and 15% of porn users develop sexual disorders as a result of it. (Source.)

Harmless my foot.
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apples are harmless until you use them to attack people, candies are good until you choke on them(go lifesavers hole in center!) its all how you use the object/resource.. if you don't realize everything about porn before you watch it, and have full mental understanding of the difference between stage/dreaming/whatever and reality, then yes, it can be harmful to the person. you can't bash an idea entirely just because 15% of the people have a problem with it. we still sell cigaretts yet it kills how many people every year? at least porn doesn't kill people.

December 22, 2004, 11:34:36 AM
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Death by wanking....it COULD happen >.>

December 22, 2004, 11:47:52 AM
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Pfft I'm more addicted to NS, where’s the website and expensive counseling for me!?

December 22, 2004, 12:04:51 PM
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Pfft I'm more addicted to NS, where’s the website and expensive counseling for me!?
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Isn't that what this, the NS forums and IRC are for?

My name is GrayDuck and I am addicted to NS.  Who wants to be my sponsor?

Back on topic:
Rad I haven't had time to dig into the site but I can't tell if it's meant to be taken seriously.  It just seems like a big joke or spoof.  But as I said I just watched the kitten video and looked at the front page.

Legionnaired, great find with the stats and stuff... I sent that link to my husband  :p I'm waiting to see his reaction.  haha

Edit:  He was offended  <_<
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December 22, 2004, 12:06:35 PM
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Death by while wanking....it COULD HAS happened >.>
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In the UK there's a magazine called The Big Issue, sold by the homeless (with the person getting a reasonable percentage of the sale money). Anyway there used to be a section in the back of the mag devoted to funny death stories. Need I say more...
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December 22, 2004, 12:48:14 PM
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Rad I haven't had time to dig into the site but I can't tell if it's meant to be taken seriously.  It just seems like a big joke or spoof.  But as I said I just watched the kitten video and looked at the front page.
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Go here: http://www.xxxchurch.com/porninc/story.asp

Stories of people who have been helped. This is for real, under the marketing, eye catching devices is a true sentiment for helping others through this stuff.
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December 22, 2004, 07:13:58 PM
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In the defence of all abusers NOT wanting to reply to this

If we dont do porn, what will we do? there ARE worst things to be addicted to, arnt there?


THAT being said. I think I will need to go about and..... "self reform".

Let the insults begin!

 
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December 22, 2004, 11:39:01 PM
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December 22, 2004, 11:46:17 PM
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I salute you rad for having the courage to post this link.  These guys certainly have their own style, but I think the work is laudable.

Thanks Legion for finding the very stats I was thinking of, it can be serious stuff.  Not everyone who wanks off to hentai or whatever has a disorder, but it can become an addiction.
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December 23, 2004, 02:07:41 AM
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That's a point.  

I would have a hard time posting this, because to do so would say that you actually looked into it, that you were bothered by it, and that you were at least interested in it.  How many of you here are willing to say "I masturbate too much?"

Me, I used to masturbate.  It was the easist thing to stop, and on of the hardest to actually manage it.  And that's without anything else.  Those of you with pr0n, go ahead.  Me, I'll keep to my 'boring' life and keep out of it.

For some reason, it seems....wrong.

Edit: For the record, I'm agnostic.  No church was involved with my decision, nobody else knew.  So this isn't some fanatical religious crap for me.

Sidenote:  I hope Kodiac doesn't read this, how embarassing would that be?
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December 23, 2004, 02:28:08 AM
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hah, I don't even have to look at that site to know it's a joke

if your seriously addicted to porn, open your phonebook and find your local sexaholics anon chapter and get involved in a 12 step program and complete it.
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December 23, 2004, 08:57:57 AM
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[...]Legionnaired, great find with the stats and stuff... I sent that link to my husband  :p I'm waiting to see his reaction.  haha

Edit:  He was offended  <_<
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