Shields

[Grillkohle]

Shields.

They may be a nice extension of tactics to rush that camper, and they might be a good way to get through the vent in cs_assault, but they are just way too bugged, and have been banned from all professional cs leagues for a reason.

It does not matter whether the enemy has the shield flipped in or out, if he faces you or not, it is just pure luck to kill that guy behind the shield. It might be fun to rush the ever-camping Seth with it over and over again (gg anarki), but it's just an unbalanced piece of crap.

I just came back from a game of CS, and there was a guy hiding behind the shield, but he was not looking at me, but at that guy on the other side. So I stand on the right of the shield CT, who is looking so that the shield covers nothing of his body from my point of view. I pull out the AK, aim nicely at the head and give it a burst of fire. As a reward, I see some sparks and get the nice sounds that are played when bullets are deflected by metal.

Therefore, I think shields should be banned from the CS server was well, as in disabled by admin mod.

[Leaderz0rz]

agreed, i have put 40 auto sniper bullets into two guys with shields, while a partner used a sig, and they took zero damage, and ended up pistoling me while i reloaded, the only way you can kill them is with grenades, 2  or more people rushing them, or setting up ambushes with 2 or more people, thats not balanced.

[Black Mage]

the shield being placed so that the cts stand a chance against the camping t's, i think that if the shield goes, the aw/m must follow suit.

[Grillkohle]

agreed, i have put 40 auto sniper bullets into two guys with shields, while a partner used a sig, and they took zero damage, and ended up pistoling me while i reloaded, the only way you can kill them is with grenades, 2  or more people rushing them, or setting up ambushes with 2 or more people, thats not balanced.

If it were that easy. Even if you set up ambushes, there might be 2 shielders coming. Or you might just not hit, even if you shoot from behind, because the hitboxes are messed up and the shield protection area seems to be wrapped around the wearer twice.

the shield being placed so that the cts stand a chance against the camping t's, i think that if the shield goes, the aw/m must follow suit.

I don't think that the AWP is that big of a deal, because you can actually counter it (with skill, or evade the awper and get him from behind/lure him close distance).

[SaltzBad]

The other way around. The AWP is the counter to skill, not the other way around :p

Its really pretty damn easy, set yourself some weapon fastswitches or even zoom1 and switch scripts up, a high enough sense (or if you're picky a little script that switches sense between pistol and AWP for you) and any idiot can AWP. I refuse to use it like that, but its been proven time and time again that its a powerful all purpose weapon with that method.

A practiced AWPer doesn't fall for evasion well, can still fire at you at close distances and lets not mention he has as much or more roundabout view than any M4 monkey.

[Anarki3x6]

first of all only reason i use shields is to counter those awpers *cough*seth*cough*.

if shields go then awps must also go.

[Grillkohle]

I'm fine with that.

[Legionnaired]

Scouts for LIEF!

Nothing more satisfying than a scout kill, or four.

[sonic]

the shield being placed so that the cts stand a chance against the camping t's, i think that if the shield goes, the aw/m must follow suit.

DEFFINATELY

[Seth]

shields are not unbalenced although i for one think they were better when you could shoot the glass out but they took that away

shields are like a moving wall but i see no problem with them, you can still kill a guy with a shield just shoot him in the butt.

or you can just through some HE and they go boom just like anyone else

[Leaderz0rz]

i normaly only use the awp when i'm pissed off from 4 cts running around with shields, other then that i like the scout mostly

[Radeon]

In 1.6 beta the shield sucked so bad..  4 shots from an AK would go straight through the shield and kill the holder.  It was like standing behind a crate and yelling "EVERYONE SHOOT ME!!"  The shield is a part of the game, just like the AWM/AWP.  The coders have been doing the best they can to make it even, but if you play with experienced players who know how to take down a shielder then it doesn't really matter.

Best method:  2-3 round bursts with your rifle/smg to get close then at blank point range jump into him and follow his noggin then spray like a mad man at his head.   :blink:

[Uranium - 235]

Nope, shield stays as far as I'm concerned. Example, on that map where you rush the ranchhouse (with the skylights).

We kept running and we're getting completely gunned down every time. The only possible way we survived was with the use of shields. This has little to do with sniping T's (since the whole idea of sniping is to shoot them when they can't see you), and simply a way to break stalemates.

[lolfighter]

Heck, we might as well just hack the maps to drop a couple of USPs in T spawn and then disable the buymenu altogether.

[-Lancer-]

Scouts for LIEF!

Alright! Someone shares my point of View. And in response to the topic; Shields, in my opinion are :p. Abused way too much. Maybe if they werent abused, i would not hate them, but for now, they annoy me to the point were i want to take my pc and thro it across the wall when someone with a shield guns me down when i got an AK.

[sonic]

Scouts for LIEF!

Alright! Someone shares my point of View. And in response to the topic; Shields, in my opinion are :p. Abused way too much. Maybe if they werent abused, i would not hate them, but for now, they annoy me to the point were i want to take my pc and thro it across the wall when someone with a shield guns me down when i got an AK.

Hurray for anger! /me throws pc at awp campers and shield whores

[That Annoying Kid]

wewt!

it's all about scout headshots

[Fewlio]

Hell if we disable shields, we might as well disable awps, scouts, aks, bullpups(olo aug), and every other damn gun. CS is not a balanced game, so you either play it with everything or play it with nothing, it is the reason I have not played it in so long.

IMO, the scout is much more powerful than the awp. It has a higher rate of fire, it is more accurate unzoomed and when moving. It also only takes one more shot to kill a guy unless you shoot them in the head.


Oh yeah, forgot to add, the weapon switching exploit is a bannable offense .

[Seth]

weapon switching? you mean fire an awp shot and pull out pistol then awp again?

hows that an exploit i tryed it and dont see the point, sometimes it bugg's the scope and wont come back

[Radeon]

um quickswitch is not a bannable offense.