Great Advice Article

[Niteowl]

Wow, great stuff. It was for a highschool graduation ceremony that he was going to do, but I think the school cancelled on him.

http://www.paulgraham.com/hs.html

[LowCrawler]

Wow, great stuff. It was for a highschool graduation ceremony that he was going to do, but I think the school cancelled on him.

http://www.paulgraham.com/hs.html

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cool stuff to know, thanks Nitey

[Bryan]

whats a "Lisp hacker" ?

Bryan

[Diablus]

very well said by him... im glad I read this since I just got out of highschool

great find owleh

[aeroripper]

College is for suckers.  Even when you do finish you'll hafta pay your thousands and thousands of debt back.  What are you really going to get out of a class that has 100 people in a big auditorium and a teacher that can't speak english well?  

[Vinegar Ninja]

you get the good teachers who are there for you cause your friggen paying em. You get to be under the experience of someone who has worked in the field that you might be interested in and can tell you first hand what its like.
You have to go to college of some sort. It could be for a trade, or your career, but unless you wanna be a manager at Target or something, you need school. In this day and age a degree is EVERYTHING. What that degree is is totally up to you.

[GrayDuck]

College is for suckers.  Even when you do finish you'll hafta pay your thousands and thousands of debt back.  What are you really going to get out of a class that has 100 people in a big auditorium and a teacher that can't speak english well?

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Pick your school wisely and you won't have that.  I went here:  UWRF - little public university in wisconsin (though it was still technically a part of the MN Twin Cities Metro Area).  My largest class was 20 or 30 people, most classes were much smaller than that.  I was on a first name basis with all my profs.  It was the best college experience ever imo - at the very least, the proper thing for me.  And I came out of it debt free.

College, like anything, is very much a case of 'you get out what you put in'.  What you choose to put into anything is up to you.

[Diablus]

College is for suckers.  Even when you do finish you'll hafta pay your thousands and thousands of debt back.  What are you really going to get out of a class that has 100 people in a big auditorium and a teacher that can't speak english well?

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actually the average class size in the college im going to is 10-15 but yes in some cases it can be 30, in SOME cases

[Malevolent]

Of course main classes in college have a lot of kids because they are required. Once you get into classes you want to take that have to do with your major there will be less. College definitely isn't for suckers.

[aeroripper]

Wow don't diss college here using wild generalizations o_O i'd take a target manager job anyday.  Mediocrity is fun!  Keep in mind college isn't for everybody and that doesn't make them any less than you just because you might end up making a little more money.  I just used the suckers comment sarcastically not really directed at anybody but as an expression of the way i feel about the whole idea of it.

I really never saw college as the natural step after high school anyways.  ($3000 dollars later).  Besides, what fun is a discussion with no opposing viewpoints anyways?

[Asal]

Only had one class I had a hard time understanding my teacher....and that one I didn't really need to pay attention in anyway.

In any case, I'm 2000 down, but making progress.......in reducing debt.  I haven't graduated yet.  Also, when I have my degree, I'll be being paid more per year than is likely possible for those without college.

[Bryan]

Wow don't diss college here using wild generalizations o_O i'd take a target manager job anyday.  Mediocrity is fun!  Keep in mind college isn't for everybody and that doesn't make them any less than you just because you might end up making a little more money.  I just used the suckers comment sarcastically not really directed at anybody but as an expression of the way i feel about the whole idea of it.

I really never saw college as the natural step after high school anyways.  ($3000 dollars later).  Besides, what fun is a discussion with no opposing viewpoints anyways?

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im with you after several years of collage and several thousand dollers and reading 10 post in this thread I still dont know what a "Lisp hacker" is. I'm getting the impression that im not alone in that.

Bryan

edit....because I not sure I could handle a target manger job.

[GrayDuck]

Lisp:  It's a programming language.  Basically he's just a skilled programmer / hacker.

[Niteowl]

im with you after several years of collage and several thousand dollers and reading 10 post in this thread I still dont know what a "Lisp hacker" is. I'm getting the impression that im not alone in that.

Bryan

edit....because I not sure I could handle a target manger job.

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Sorry, it was such a geek related answer I was sure someone would jump on it. Lisp is a  AI/linguistic processing language. Hacker is a term used by the general public for a cracker (someone who breaks into systems); but for the geeks, a hacker is someone who codes. It's more of a pejorative term/meaning of respect at the same time. That is, to hack is to write.. non-elegant code. i.e., if you ever had to fix something with duct tape, you were putting a hack in.

I'm sure if you search the intarweb, you'll find more history on the term hacker, as it was initially intended.

[Bryan]

thanks.


Bryan