Serious issue affecting LM gaming qualitiy.

[Necrosis]

Slotters should be held to a higher standard than joe public, so if anything the punishment should be harsher than what we mete out to them.

Its not like slotters don't know better....

[GrayDuck]

This has been discussed before, and yes it is a pain.  We can keep people from F4ing and ruining a win for the opposite team – but we cannot force someone to stay in the server and keep playing.  And to be honest – I’d rather the serious people keep playing and the one’s who have given up to get the heck out – lately nothing has pissed me off more to see a rine drop his weapons at the 5 min mark and run around with a knife and try to find a hiding spot.

So – Seeing how punishment for people leaving and rejoining later isn’t really something that I see ever happening… I suggest this Slick – you seem to have a list of people in mind that are huge offenders of this.  Nothing’s stopping you from posting that.  Perhaps a little shame will whip people into shape.  I certainly don’t want to be known as ‘that admin who quits when she’s going to lose’ – and gosh, I DO hope I’m not the admin you keep referring to.

I’m sorry, I know that it’s frustrating, and I can see the reasoning behind you wanting admins to take action.  But it is just a part of the game that just so happens to have been amplified by the latest release.  Try not to let a few bad seeds ruin your fun – I too expect more from our Reserved Slotters and especially my fellow admins.

[duherman]

I hate it when I get slot-kicked every 5 minutes. It's ironic how it happens everytime I'm about to onos/fade/drop chambers/drop hive.

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Uhh maybe wrong thread? I don't know, this is totally unrelated :|

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I'm one of those people who don't have a slot and get kicked every so and so.

[rad4Christ]

I'm probably one of the ones 1/4 refers to when he says "they expect perfect games". Although I have been overall frustrated with the (lack of) teamwork on LM as of late, I do try to stick it out until the end of the round, UNLESS I know I'll do/say something I shouldn't. Then I leave.

I see what SlickWill is saying, and to an extent agree with it. Although, I think there are more issues to deal with. Since F4 is not allowed, end games need to happen faster. That means not saving for HA and JP, or having all three hives and every node. Constantly push, you may be knocked back, you may end the game. You may even waste too much res and sudeenly be on the losign side. Either way, at least you were doing SOMETHING.

[Malevolent]

I hate it when I get slot-kicked every 5 minutes. It's ironic how it happens everytime I'm about to onos/fade/drop chambers/drop hive.

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We know you don't have a slot. Stop comlaining please.

[moofree]

I'm guilty of this. Normally when I leave the server, it's after a game is done, but sometimes I just get bored of ns and decide to quit in the middle of a game. Normally this happens when I'm aliens (if this is the case, i'll normally drop a chamber or an rt or something if i have the res)
If i'm marines, i'll drop my non-lmg gun and do an insane run on a hive

I have an idea for a mod that would sort of lessen this problem.

Howabout when a marine leaves, the server autodrops their weapons and armor by the nearest infantry portal
Or when an alien leaves it distributes their res amongst the remaining players... wait.. on second thought, that'd be really exploitable...

On third thought both of these could be exploited easily... you're about to die in a heavy with an hmg so you hit your quit button...
nevermind.

[SlickWill]

I won't post a list of those who I see doing this on a regular basis.  I think that is a little low and I would rather take the high road.  But those who do, they KNOW.  So, just be a little bit considerate.  I'm done.  Thanks for the reads and the input.  

[Diablus]

I'll admit I am guilty once inawhile for "lame leaving" but I have reasons to back it up and also If im alien, ill drop my res to benefit the team, and as marine ill drop my weapons.

for one When Aliens / Marines make their last stand they're only delaying the inevitable. So rather then wait another 6-10 minutes of the long dragout people such as I would rather leave, go get something to eat, or even play another game.

Would you rather us say go get something to eat or go watch TV afk in game so nobody else could join and hell, even possibly make a comeback? or would you rather us leave, do our own thing and not take up slots? People who leave aren't "soar losers" most of the time, they just are impatient / angry at the team / other reasons and you really cant do anything about that.

[Necrosis]

The problem isnt people who drop their guns, or spend their res then leave.

Problem is people who just vanish, with no comment at all.



Leaving and rejoining purely for the next round means the inevitable slotkick of whoever joined when you left. So not only do they join at endgame, they have a bad endgame and then get kicked at the start of the next round. Not a pleasant experience (only applies to people slotkicked by slotters coming back from their quit).


Whenever a game goes badly, keep your spirits up, keep the team spirits up, and try to set a fun little goal for yourself.... a suggestion is trying to relocate to pad, or perhaps recycling everything except the IPs then dropping a lot of shotties in order to rush a hive. Fun is all in the perspective, if the game is lost then try to find fun in some other game related activity.

[Dark]

if i'm an alien and have to go i go gorge then drop what i can with my remaining res and then leave.  i do hate doing it but sometimes the parental units want me to do something.  i get tired of people who don't do what they are supposed to do but i do live with it.

[2_of_8]

The problem isn't in people leaving due to legitemate reasons, it's people leaving 5 minutes before the end-game, therefore ruining the game.

[Necrosis]

I think we should actively try to encourage our teams to finish the game if possible.

IE not waiting for the third hive plus chambers if its not necessary.


Always remember, the key to an early finish is teamwork. A concerted rush, supporting a higher lifeform, running distraction, staying in squads. By promoting one you promote the other, so its all good.

[DarkScythe]

i have some comments but i am just way too sleepy to remember what i wanted to say.. lol

anyway, slick, it's a prevalent problem on most servers, not just LM and there really is no countermeasure to it when normal people (non-slots and random pubs that come in) do it, because you can't do anythign to prevent people from quitting.

talking about sportsmanship only applies to regs (slot and nonslot) and admins who frequent this server and understand what everyone else goes through.

i guess i should be happy to say i've never lame-quit any game, as i always see to the end unless i get slotted, or my comp explodes or whatever, but yes it is frustrating.
i've been on both sides, where we're winning, or we just took out a critical part of the opposing team's strategy and the tide turned for us and the other side left making it feel like a hollow victory, as well as the losing side where we're camped out in base waiting for the inevitable and my team quits making it even more impossible for us

i personally only leave either before a new round, or after i finish the round we're currently playing, and sometimes i admit i feel like quitting in the middle of the game or near end-game because it's just frustrating, but i will hold off til the end

i agree, however, the regs and *especially* those that hold reserved slots should take care to try not to do this, because the impact that an RS has is much greater, referring to the fact that a nonslot comes in for a bad endgame then gets slotted the next round, which does happen
but other than that, there's not much that can be done to normal players other than a plea to hold out for another few minutes while u promise to end the game

..do i make sense? i dont know, i'm so sleepy.. night.

[Doobie Dan]

I sometimes leave at bad points like this, if I get so worked up that it'd be best that I do.  I take care not to join again for quite a while though, at least 30 minutes, because otherwise it's F4ing.  And this is fairly rare.

However, I have a strict standard to always respect other players.  If somebody is pissing me off in game to the point where I'm about to chew them out, I'm going to leave rather than become an asshole myself.  Leaving isn't a good thing, but it's a better alternative.