Starcraft

[Diablus]

speaking of editing, its been alittle over a year since i ended mapping, anyone know the name of the campaign editor( its not the original, its a more advanced one where u can do all sorts of things with the 7 -8 diff programs that come with it i.e.: build bunkers or buildings on sides of cliffs or in water, put eggs in random places, more trigger options etc.)

[Malevolent]

If I would have know about that editor, I would have definitely started making more maps. I want to know about it too!

[Isamil]

StarEdit

[Diablus]

yea its star edit, get it here along with many other ones

http://www.campaigncreations.org/starcraft...ams/index.shtml

[Malevolent]

Yeah, I knew about StarEdit (that's what I used to use). But these others....interesting.

EDIT: Which of these other ones basically has everything the others have? I want one that can do mostly everything.

[Legionnaired]

I've got Star wars and BR installed, I'm ready to go!

[Grimm]

When I saw this on phl today, I was laughing my ass off at the timing of it.

[Diablus]

Mal: Staredit does , just install the other 5-6 mini programs that it comes with, they do come realllly handy in big detailed maps cause they each do a specfic job

[That Annoying Kid]

I used to play starcraft, ^_________________^

it was all about teching with terran, starting with a specific build patter that I have forgot and halfway to seige tanks and goliaths be sure to drop rush on the opponents peons with the motorbykes, and then seige tanks and goliaths with drop ships and tear into the mofo with the stalled economy

[Uranium - 235]

I never understood the point of the vulture... someone enlighten me? They make decent scouts, but once you get wraiths... well, wraiths are better in every way.

Drop some mines, then the vulture can't drop anymore, and you get to watch as the mines either:

1) Chase after an enemy for a while, then lose track and burrow somewhere where no one would ever go.

2) Chase enemies right into your defending forces, then blow everyone up.

3) Blow each other up.

Then the vulture has the annoying pea-shooter, and it's as weak as paper...


I never had much luck with siege cannons either, outside of proxy base defense, or shelling down structures. They could shoot farther then they could see, so I'd always end up with lots of dead marines, lots of dead zerg, and my siege cannon blowing everything away indescriminantly. Plus, in 'tank' mode, the cannon lost ALL it's sex appeal. *PEWM*... *PEWM*... please...

[Legionnaired]

I now officially hate starcraft in every respect.

When, oh when, will someone make an RTS that's not about mass, but about tactics and strategy?

Oh wait, they have..

http://www.totalwar.com/

[Satanic Monkey]

Starcraft does have strategy, every unit has a counter and that unit has a counter and so on. Mass attacks don't always work cause there's always a way to counter something in starcraft.

[lolfighter]

I now officially hate starcraft in every respect.

When, oh when, will someone make an RTS that's not about mass, but about tactics and strategy?

Oh wait, they have..

http://www.totalwar.com/

Myth m'dear. Gets rid of the tedious base building. It's all units and tactics.

[Grimm]

Or Warcraft 3, Legionnaired.

And Satanic Monkey is right, every unit has a counter. I could mass Zerglings but they'll be slaughtered by upgraded marines in bunkers, mass Carriers to get blown from the sky by Scourges, etc etc etc.

[lolfighter]

Or Warcraft 3, Legionnaired.[...]

Nah, basebuilding fest. If I give you a level ten hero and three footmen, then swarm you with twenty archers, you'll still lose, no matter how good your tactics or how many creeps you've killed.

[Diablus]

ah nite, if u need a lesson in speed tactics, ill gladly teach u for zerg

[Grimm]

Nah, basebuilding fest. If I give you a level ten hero and three footmen, then swarm you with twenty archers, you'll still lose, no matter how good your tactics or how many creeps you've killed.

But those 20 archers all use up food supply, which is already much lower in WC3 than in Starcraft, and you have to pay the upkeep cost. And aside from the fact that Heros aren't meant to be their own armies, they're used in conjunction with your army to get a bit of an edge.

[ShootBang]

I have warcraft 3 and starcraft, but i think i prefer starcraft more... The Heros in warcraft make things too complecated, while building the base you need to be sure to make a mini-army so you can upgrade your hero, leaving your base close to helpless from a rush attack. However, if you're too slow, and your hero sux, than you're gona have problems in the long run. And of course, if he dies that's an extra couple hundred gold to ressurect him.

I like um both, but i don't like the idea of mixing an RTS and an RPG game while trying to out manuver the enemy at the same time. WAY too confusing.  :p

[devicenull]

Google for "Starcraft X-Tra Editor", "ISOM Editor", "GUEdit".. I don't think you need much more then that..
Make sure to protect any public maps.. because someone will modify it, and make a lame version if you dont..

I'm almost done with a map for BW, its like the call for help ones

[Satanic Monkey]

We should make a private starcraft channel in battlenet and we can make private games......just my suggestion.