Author Topic: Recent Reserved Slot removals  (Read 27535 times)

May 07, 2005, 10:33:29 PM
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*READ all this before you follow instructions*
GET UP
WALK OUTSIDE
OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SCREAM
Let out all your frustrations.
yay now we feel better yes?
Rules are in place, follow them or take the risk of being punished(this is clearly apparent).
<3 Esuna! :( im saddened that you lost your slot and i can only hope to play ns with you in the future. OMG ESUNA DOWN! :D. I shall truly miss playing with you if you dont come back.
<3 sonic! i shall miss you too.

If you all like the community/server so much why is it that its so hard to get you do something an admin asks you to do? They shouldnt have to ask you more than once, then  you should follow it for the sake of being a good person/community member. Surely if you agree to it once it would only seem sensible that you would agree to it all the time.
I've been kicked 3 times from the server and kicked/banned from Irc 2 times, regardless if i agreed to the punishment or not i conceded to it and without using any harsh language at any admins. Nor have i committed the same actions i was punished for again.

im not ranting at all, i just hate to lose any of you for something stupid. Please dont get banned <3!!!

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May 07, 2005, 10:46:38 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with occasional swearing due to frustration (we are all adults after all, and even the IRC channel is PG-13)

And as long as the admins arn't going on a power trip and kicking\banning people without a warning i think the server is fine.  

As for the whole "armory" spawning when their finishing off the CC just for fun i don't really see as a problem i think its actually kind of funny to watch the pathetic last attempt :-P.  

I've gotten to know a lot of the regulars that play in the past 1-2 months i've played on this server and its a LOT funner than normal ns servers just because everybody knows eachother, knows the game, and is relatively willing to work together.

Can't think of anything more...bye


May 08, 2005, 12:03:48 AM
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Wow! Heeheeeheeeeheeehohohohoh!

I really never thought it would come to this. You just stripped two of the oldest and most active res sloters...because????....Yeh..I'm still waiting for a real answer *yawn*...frankly I could care less if they lost a slot or not...who the **** cares TBH...it's the ****ing dumbass reason is what gets me. "OMG tehy are teh using teh naughty words!  :o  and acting like llamas!  :o " Woop de ****. Esuna and Sonic earned their slots...Way before any of you mother****ing so called "admins" even heard of NS. Tell me guys...did your e-feelings ™ get hurt? awww! poor baby. Now might be a good time to stop suckling your mothers tit and grow the **** up...Esuna and Sonic made LM fun..You cant ****ing deny that...They broke up the monoutanity of the admin ass-kissing ressloters and HD's ****ing ownage sessions..or whatever the **** we call them now adays.  LM has turned into a mother****en nazi prison camp...games are no longer fun, Either the admin ass kissing starts (dont get me started on that) or Sombody with acctul skill in NS comes on and owns you guys..and then you wine about it on the forums ( again dont get me started). LM used to be about fun, Nano was fun, Old LM was fun...Sorry LB but your admin decisions have gone to the ****ter. Either we have admins that sit on their ass, ones that only care when they get their e-penis caught in a zipper (omg he made fun of me on teh server :(), or the ones that just ****ing ban cuz "THATS THE RULES!".

**** this ****. I say LB just !delusers on everybody and start over...either that or just ****ing leave...LM's no fun anymore...and you guys pretty much just killed some of the high moments of the server. LM'ers used to play TFC, Sven, S&I, and all that **** together...cuz It was fun to play with you guys...What the **** happend?! The answer is...dun dun dun! Your ****ing bored. You have nothing better to do then to just ****ing use your e-power to make sombodes e-playtime more ****ty then it alreayd is. Grow up...all of you...Your all old enought not to get offended by words...I'm sure you ****ers hear them all the time at school and work...deal with it..Dont come back with "I hear it all the time so I dont want to hear it on my fav server" tripe..Welcome to the real ****ing world jackass' The real irony is that you "admins" have no real power at all...Omg you can kick and ban me from and IP adress. I remember when you acctuly had to ****ing work to become a ****ing admin on LM...and it was a respected position...now...It's just bull****....Half the ****ing user list is admins...and 2/3 of them dont do jack ****. It's a bull**** title now...it carries no weight...Lets go back in time when LM was fun to play on...with admins like Jane, TyrNemmiss, DXO (he was kinda ass though...but fun non the less),     and all the old Nano admins (or at least the good ones), and myself. But too late now...Wish some of you new guys could have seen w                  hat  LM used to be like....Guess you never will.  Bottom  line...Bad call  on the slot loss...just  one more bad  mistake brought to you by somes ones e-ego getting brused. GFG.

Vote Esuna and Sonic for admins tbh...they deserve it .

May 08, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
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esuna has been around for a while, sonic is relatively new

sonic I hope you can step it up enough to regain your slot  XD
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May 08, 2005, 12:48:21 AM
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Wow Bozo, you managed to insult everyone but yourself, Sonic, and Esuna.  I'm impressed.

I disagree, I would not trust Esuna and Sonic as admins.  I don't trust myself as admin. I don't mind playing with them...some days.  But it seems that 75% of the time they complain, and to me, that doesn't seem fun.  I don't play on LM to be ridiculed, sworn at, and overall be a target for the pent-up frustrations of a person I've never met.  I play on LM to have fun, and even if I'm losing, that's fine (So long as nobody TDs me on purpose.)  I'm here for the people.  And Perhaps you disagree because you haven't been around much.  I can certainly say I haven't seen you much.
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May 08, 2005, 02:04:32 AM
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Last game I can remember with esuna or sonic basicly consisted of esuna orchistrating mass pit jumps all round long until the aliens figured out what was happening and finished us off.  Next round was a compleate repeat.  I left in frustration because I joined up to play the damn game, not muddle with HL movement code and trigger_hurt's.

Would I remove someone's slot because of it?  Hell no.  But what I'm basicly saying is that you can get off your high horse bozo, because it isn't like these two guys are the last remaining vestage of "fun" on this server.  New slotters can be fun too.

I can't comment on any difference in the admining system, since I really have no clue whatsoever.  But to me it just sounds like you have a hardcore case of "back in the day" syndrome, the grass isn't nessicarly THAT much greener.

I do think the point is important though?  When did it happen that only dull PG-13 personalities were good candidates for LM slottership?  Characters like Uranium, Esuna, and Agent Orange were part of what made this server the place to be back in the day.  We all used to love our scathing hardasses, what the hell happened?  I don't have issues with respect rules or swearfilters like some of us do, but whoever is responsible for taking it past that and keeping grudge lists of offences so these guys can be banned needs to be dragged out into the street and shot.  The admin team needs to stop trying to sap all the character out of this comunity.
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May 08, 2005, 02:13:02 AM
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In a retrospective light of my post, I find bozo's excessive profanity amusing.
I also have to agree with asal in that I've never seen you around.  For someone who speaks of the "glory days" on LM, you sure dont seem to be much of a contributor to the contemporary.  Either way, saying that esuna and sonic deserve admin is irrelevant.  Saying that the server sucks is irrelevant.  Your conclusions are also very skewed. As far as the way you percieve games going on, I dont know which server you've been watching, but the last few thousand games ive seen on LM, there werent any admins getting brownnosed, nobody went and whined on the forums about ownage and your complaining about it not being the way you want it to be inst helping anyone. You've handled this in the least mature fashion so far, even concerning those people who were actually effected by having their slots removed.  I've played a lot with esuna and a little with sonic, both decent, and like everyone else have their moments of hostility; but you, sir, have made an ass of yourself.
So instead of all of us repeating the same things over and over (i.e. "we can all handle a little swearing" and "heres what needs to change") lets just drop it and move on.  If theres a further issue to contend with, do so. Otherwise, shut this thread down. I find it wrong on several levels that we have this in the general forum. It's not right that this was put here in the first place as it makes it a general stone-throw at people in a public forum on what is one of the more prominent public servers in the game. It needs to be deleted or moved to a private forum.  Good leadership is parted in discipline, wherein if someone needs a slap on the wrist or a good flogging, you do it in private and let that be the end of it. Theres no sense in needlessly publicly embarassing these two people much less anyone else who happens to say something stupid on the subject (of which i can name a few in this thread).
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May 08, 2005, 03:02:59 AM
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esuna and sonic are assholes and shout profanity, i don't think anyone can deny this. But they are also good guys aswell and are fun to play with and talk to. Vinne is also an asshole, holy devil is an asshole, i'm an asshole etc etc. Obviously we accept assholes. I think we can all agree there are times where esuna gets worked up, and vinne as well. Admins breaking rules is somthing you need to tell LB not another admin. Instead of bringing it up "blah blah" breaks the rules too! you should contact LB with proof. Every admin is replacable, every slotter is replacable. If you want to keep your admin rights or your slot then follow the rules. Its ok to make mistakes and break the rules somtimes. It happens we are all humans.

Esuna, if vinne is starting crap with you then you need to contact LB. If you retaliate then he will have a REASON to ban you. I'm not saying either of you start crap with the other but there is obviously bad blood between the two of you. LM is a pretty large server, and therefore the admins need to act the same to everyone. We know sonic/esuna shout profanity alot but that doesn't make them immune to punishment. And having to tell someone to stop doing somthing over and over and over obviously means they arn't learning. I haven't played NS in forever but I know when I did if someone broke a rule they were warned, if it continued they were kicked, and then banned. I have seen a few admins ban when they should have warned, and I have seen a few admins warn when they should have banned. Every admin is different so therefore different action is taken.

And stuff in the admin forum does not have to be made public. Its for them to know and only them. When you get arrested you don't see your criminal record. They are admins becuase the take responsiblity for keeping the server ran smoothly. They do extra things that arn't fun for the sake of keeping the community a good place. When you recieve a RS your not only getting a slot, you also get the responsibility to follow the rules and show everyone else how the server should be. If someone breaks a rule then you should inform them they are doing so.

Admin signal? people misuse it? well don't have the highlight...Before there was the admin signal i just asked if any admin was around and usally got a reply quickly. If there wasn't i would return to the game and try to instruct the offender on our rules. Worse come to worse I would PM a few admins and almost always got a response that way.

I think its silly to be fighting between members and admins. We all should follow the rules.

May 08, 2005, 06:16:21 AM
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esuna has been around for a while, sonic is relatively new

sonic I hope you can step it up enough to regain your slot  XD
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I also have to agree with asal in that I've never seen you around. For someone who speaks of the "glory days" on LM, you sure dont seem to be much of a contributor to the contemporary.
Bozo knows what it's about - you can trust me on that.  He's been on the forums snce the day they were put up and has been in the community, itself, for longer than I have.  Hell, while he might have overdone it on the whole profanity bit, somebody had to say it.  

Still, this is what I mean by that change.  Bozo used to like the people here.

May 08, 2005, 07:15:55 AM
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I haven't been playing here long, but I play just about every day and I have yet to see anything wrong with the admins. Anyway I had to add that I really dislike this attitude:

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As far as flaming goes, there are times when it's justified. Example: a shotgun rush is coming to a hive. The gorge spits it and yells out that the rush is coming. 2 skulks come, while the other four busily chomp on an RT and ignore the fact that the hive is dying. Another example: Rines are trying to take a hive out, and one of the goobers stands there wasting precious shotgun ammo on a movement chamber instead of assisting the team. Now im not pushing for it to go into the realm of kicking a dead horse, but if someone slings out a pithy remark at such idiocy, who cares? Sure its easy to say that it breaks the rules and should be punished if you're watching it non-biased from spectator, but if you're on the team thats effected, it makes you MAD! Let people blow off some steam by occasionally ragging on people for being dumb. As far as the regs go, we casually flame each other all the time and none of us cares, because we know that it's all in jest and the next round it wont matter.  If some nsplayer comes in and does it and gets miffed because he was being stupid and got an earful and leaves, does it really bother anyone?
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It bothers me a lot. New players should be helped, not yelled at or made fun of. It's one thing to jokingly flame someone you know, or to flame someone who is good yet is not really trying, but flaming someone for their lack of skill is pathetic. Yeah we all lose our patience with that.. and we should all be punished accordingly.

The language and niceness rules are a huge plus for LM.
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May 08, 2005, 11:16:43 AM
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The Lunixmonster Staff account represents all of the admins, and that is it. It represents our decisions as a whole and this time it was unanimous. If it was a majority that thought we shoud do this, it would still happen since most of us wanted it.

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I really like esuna.  I was even against him losing his slot.

I dunno if this was already brought up, but as soon as I saw it, I had to make my point.
PB's comment singlehandedly makes the "unanimous" bull**** null and void.  Stop lying, that's all.  Secondly, please inform me of ANYTHING inappropriate that esuna has EVER done besides use foul language.  Same for Sonic.  Yes, I realize that *gasp* sometimes the foul language was combined with PERSONAL INSULTS over the internet, but I think that's hardly a reason to strip a reserved slot.  They both have quite sparkling behavior records when actually playing the game.

****, stop being so thin-skinned.
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May 08, 2005, 11:32:22 AM
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The Lunixmonster Staff account represents all of the admins, and that is it. It represents our decisions as a whole and this time it was unanimous. If it was a majority that thought we shoud do this, it would still happen since most of us wanted it.

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I really like esuna.  I was even against him losing his slot.

I dunno if this was already brought up, but as soon as I saw it, I had to make my point.
PB's comment singlehandedly makes the "unanimous" bull**** null and void.  Stop lying, that's all.  Secondly, please inform me of ANYTHING inappropriate that esuna has EVER done besides use foul language.  Same for Sonic.  Yes, I realize that *gasp* sometimes the foul language was combined with PERSONAL INSULTS over the internet, but I think that's hardly a reason to strip a reserved slot.  They both have quite sparkling behavior records when actually playing the game.

****, stop being so thin-skinned.
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I can assure you it's not bull**** because in the actual threads we had for the RS removals of Sonic and Esuna, not one person objected. It must have not seemed to important to him or her if their slots were taken away.
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May 08, 2005, 11:40:02 AM
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I'd like to request that we move this thread to soapbox

Esuna and Sonic can be allowed access to the RS forums, yet still not have RS on the server... since the objective of the punishment the admins are trying to give (correct me if im wrong) is not to remove them from the community... right?


as far as making us look bad... outsiders seeing this does alot worse than anyone swearing

May 08, 2005, 11:41:16 AM
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Now this is turning into an argument between the admins themselves (one which should have, by the way, stayed in the admin forum), as to who objected and who didn't. You say nobody did, but in this thread right here, PB says that he was against esuna losing his slot.
Come on now.
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May 08, 2005, 11:46:24 AM
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Now this is turning into an argument between the admins themselves (one which should have, by the way, stayed in the admin forum), as to who objected and who didn't. You say nobody did, but in this thread right here, PB says that he was against esuna losing his slot.
Come on now.
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Ok. Read my post that is almost directly above you. I really have nothing more to say because this is just wasting my time now.
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May 08, 2005, 01:54:30 PM
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OH GOD! THE EMO!!! I CANT BREATH!! ITS EVERYWHERE!!

Honestly guys, you lot REALLY don't actually think that if you keep posting in this thread, that esuna and sonic will get unbanned? hell no... your all waisting your time, making the gap between RS and ADMIN even BIGGER then ever before! Esuna and vinnie fought to the death CONSTENTLY it was only a matter of time before everyone decided to get rid of esuna.

and as for bozo... Wow.. totaly awsome :-D Not that Im agreeing, since I not that old around these parts, but just wow. gave me a good chuckle

 
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May 08, 2005, 02:12:48 PM
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Now this is turning into an argument between the admins themselves (one which should have, by the way, stayed in the admin forum), as to who objected and who didn't. You say nobody did, but in this thread right here, PB says that he was against esuna losing his slot.
Come on now.
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sorry if it seems like we're all contradictive, but pb never posted in the mentioned thread about sonic or esuna, so we were lead to believe no one had any objections at all. he now voices it, here, which is weird yea. but as far as the thread, in which the decision was made, there were no objections stated, only approvals.

May 08, 2005, 02:18:44 PM
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I voiced it in IRC, actually, back when the talk of zapping slots came up.  Somehow I seem to have missed the thread about it. :/

Anyhow~~ one sub-admin's opinion against everyone else's wouldnt have changed things, methinks.
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May 08, 2005, 03:22:20 PM
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OH GOD! THE EMO!!! I CANT BREATH!! ITS EVERYWHERE!!

Honestly guys, you lot REALLY don't actually think that if you keep posting in this thread, that esuna and sonic will get unbanned? hell no... your all waisting your time, making the gap between RS and ADMIN even BIGGER then ever before! Esuna and vinnie fought to the death CONSTENTLY it was only a matter of time before everyone decided to get rid of esuna.

and as for bozo... Wow.. totaly awsome :-D Not that Im agreeing, since I not that old around these parts, but just wow. gave me a good chuckle
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We could have gotten rid of vinnie instead  :rolleyes:
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May 08, 2005, 03:38:38 PM
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Now this is turning into an argument between the admins themselves (one which should have, by the way, stayed in the admin forum), as to who objected and who didn't. You say nobody did, but in this thread right here, PB says that he was against esuna losing his slot.
Come on now.
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Ok. Read my post that is almost directly above you. I really have nothing more to say because this is just wasting my time now.
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Did you reckon that some admins might have not read the thread or, indeed, posted in it?  Or does that just blow your mind?