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March 14, 2005, 02:29:06 PM
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rad4Christ

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Note: There are strong spiritual references in this post, because, well, it's truth. Please respect it.

Last week’s experience was, for the most part, a most unexpected, but good experience. God used it to show me a few things, and a new found respect for the "little things".

Thursday morning, my wife, myself, and one of my student counselors were going to my church from my home (the Student counselor had stayed the night). We were entering the nearby city and a police officer pulled out on a motorcycle behind us. My tags have been expired, not because I haven’t paid my taxes, but only because I never received my sticker. Tonya and I had actually planned to go to the DMV on Friday morning to take care of it, but we were one day too late I guess. The police officer pulled me over and I showed proof of paying my taxes. He said it was OK, and asked for my driver’s license and insurance to run the routine check. He came back and informed me that my address wasn’t up to date on my license, and there was a fine to that. He also advised me my license happened to be suspended due to an unpaid traffic violation in July 2002.

In July 2002, as I was leaving a Christian music festival in Bushnell, Illinois, to come home, I was pulled for going 70 in a 55. I paid the ticket late, March 2003, however, everything was said to be cleared. To date, I have rented multiple vehicles from Enterprise for church events as well as personal, and I was pulled over by a Darlington Sheriff a month ago for the tags, and he took license back to the car, saw my proof of payment, and let me go with no problems, so I was unaware of a suspended license. Somehow the necessary paperwork did not reach SC as it should, and I was unlucky enough that Enterprise, nor the sheriff ran any sort of license checks to verify my license.

The officer explained to me that, although it was paid, because SC had not released it, my license was suspended, and law required that I be arrested for driving under suspension. A transport car was called, and my wife and Justin watched as I was patted down, cuffed, and placed in the back of a cruiser and taken to county jail in Effingham. An urgent request was placed on the prayer chain, and God really was talking to me.

Once I reached the county jail, I was processed, and placed in a Detox room to be processed fully. I was informed that court would be around 11 AM – 1 PM. At this time, I almost had a breakdown. I couldn’t understand how this could all happen on the eve of a youth event I was hoping would change the life of my students. I began to wonder if I would make it to the court or if I’d be forgotten, and spend a night in the jail. I also realized I had no power of any kind, and was completely at the mercy of the government. I didn’t know when I’d see my wife again, when I’d be able to walk freely, anything. I began to get fidgety, trying to figure out what to do. Then God spoke. “Why are you afraid? Why don’t you trust Me? What is worry going to help? If you harass the guards about when/how you are going to get out, will it help the situation or speed it up? No. I am in charge, you are not. I have the power, you do not. These people around have the power over your life so quickly, how much more Power do I have in this world than them! So, you must either trust me, or see to your own strength.”

Suddenly, I realized it was fully out of my hands, and gave it to Him. I told God if I could get out soon, then let it be a witness to show honor to Him. If I was to remain in jail for a day, then let it be an example to others my confidence in God. I let go of the worry, I released the doubt. Suddenly, in this room of concrete walls, ceiling, and floor, I began to sing praises to God. "Above All powers, above all Kings". "Open the Eyes of My Heart". "You Are Good".

The booking agents cuffed my hands behind my back, and began to question me. Soon, they released my hands and allowed me to relax a bit. We began to laugh at the circumstances, and I was able to show them the confidence I had in Christ, and hopefully be a light to them with my attitude. Instead of fully processing me and placing me in a waiting cell with others, I was allowed to sit in the lobby and wait quietly until my court time. I was given a drink and able to chat with the officers.

A few hours later, I was placed in front of a wall, where with three others I was placed in handcuffs, and leg irons, and escorted to the courtroom. Each person was questioned and informed of the charges. I was last. I actually laughed a little when she asked my occupation, and I embarrassingly said “Student Minister”. She let me go on a PR bond, and I have a court date on March 23.

The next day, I called Illinois, they faxed the necessary documents, I went to the courthouse and the DMV, and less than 24 hours later, I had a sticker on my car, new driver’s license, and a clean slate. Thanks to those who prayed for me, gave me help financially, and just saw the opportunity to serve the Lord. I plan to go back to those booking agents, and share with them how blessed I am by how they treated me. God worked wonders this weekend, 18 lives were changed forever, including mine. I know the Enemy wanted to hinder us from this trip so much, and I’m glad he did not succeed.
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March 14, 2005, 02:44:57 PM
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good story and all but... i thought it was gunna be bigger than some traffic violation... like were was all the classic hollywood cliches? were was the cop chase? the gun fight?  the weird people in the jail?... you could have spiced it up a lil.... (note: <- trying to be funny if i sound rude sorry)

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March 14, 2005, 02:46:05 PM
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Good on ya. Since honesty is a virtue, I'll be honest: I had trouble with the spiritual references, but I managed.
At least you managed to get something positive out of the experience. :D

March 14, 2005, 04:05:41 PM
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Indeed you are powerful.. as the Emperor has foreseen.
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March 14, 2005, 04:27:13 PM
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youre a good man, charlie brown!

March 14, 2005, 06:13:54 PM
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I've been in the clink once too, my offence was hanging out with a guy who thought that since he was wearing a fur jacket, threatening people with a plastic gun would be funny.  It kind of was funny, but it didn't stop the cops from taking us down at gunpoint.
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March 14, 2005, 06:22:46 PM
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Oh Swiftspear you bad boy, Well like I said before the past 2 years of my life have been horrible and troublesome for me and the people around me. But all the things I have done, I've never been caught.

March 14, 2005, 07:46:35 PM
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Since honesty is a virtue, I'll be honest: I had trouble with the spiritual references, but I managed.

Well, I'm sorry, it's never my intention to harm. But, I feel that I daily deal with people in the LM community making a complete mockery of the God whom I hold above all else, use His name as a cuss word, poke fun at Who He is, and disrespect everything about Him. It's my feeling that if I can deal with it everyday, and respect those who say them for who they are, then I should be able to share the truth I have within me without fear or shame. It's not my intentions to make anyone uncomfortable, but it is hard to hold myself back, yet be bombarded with snide comments about God.
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Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. CS Lewis

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: why do i have to be a stone? i dont want to be a stone... i want to do some harm.... can i be a exploding stone at least?

March 14, 2005, 08:21:59 PM
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Good story Rad. I'm glad everything worked out so great.
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March 14, 2005, 11:23:22 PM
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March 14, 2005, 11:30:46 PM
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Incredible response to that situation Rad, Acts 16 for sure. Being able to draw near to God in times of hardship is an amazing thing, He's been teaching me to do it more and more lately, and it's been really uplifting to see what He's been doing because of it.

I'll praise him tonight in my prayers for those 18, that's the best part about it.

So now that you're out of jail, maybe you can get back in the chair some more :D?


March 15, 2005, 09:21:52 AM
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Incredible response to that situation Rad, Acts 16 for sure. Being able to draw near to God in times of hardship is an amazing thing, He's been teaching me to do it more and more lately, and it's been really uplifting to see what He's been doing because of it.

I'll praise him tonight in my prayers for those 18, that's the best part about it.

So now that you're out of jail, maybe you can get back in the chair some more :D?
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acts 16! thats exactly what i was thinking of!

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March 15, 2005, 12:31:33 PM
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Lots of respect for you, Rad.  Religion isn't something i personally believe in, but that's my own opinion, not yours.  Most people would not have gone into a situation like that, and come out of it with as positive an attitude as you did.  Again, lots of respect for you for that.
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March 15, 2005, 01:54:10 PM
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...It's my feeling that if I can deal with it everyday, and respect those who say them for who they are...
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March 15, 2005, 04:07:52 PM
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Well, I'm sorry, it's never my intention to harm. But, I feel that I daily deal with people in the LM community making a complete mockery of the God whom I hold above all else, use His name as a cuss word, poke fun at Who He is, and disrespect everything about Him. It's my feeling that if I can deal with it everyday, and respect those who say them for who they are, then I should be able to share the truth I have within me without fear or shame. It's not my intentions to make anyone uncomfortable, but it is hard to hold myself back, yet be bombarded with snide comments about God.
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Please, by all means, it was not my intention to be snide. I simply wished to share my viewpoint. I took extra special care to make it as inoffensive as possible. I'm truly sorry if I have caused you grief.

I believe you refer to expressions such as "Goddammit" or "for God's sake." There I go again. Yes, I use them. I do not intend any disrespect by saying so. None of those expressions are somehow disrespectful as far as I can see. One is a wish for God to "damn it" (whatever "it" may be), the other is a plea: For God's sake, as substituted for all of humanity, or for me, or for you, or for the assembled group, etc. Never do I intend disrepsect. If God is all-knowing, he knows this too.
Above all else, I can only imagine God as *ahem* "a cool dude." But a cool dude does not lose his cool over something as simple as this.
I only want to get along with people, and especially with you. I respect you very much for how you have deeply held beliefs, yet manage to stay away from the fanaticism I am so often confronted with and pestered by.
If you cannot share my views on God, then be comforted knowing this: We do not believe in the same God. Maybe my God is false. I cannot tell. But when I say "for God's sake," I mean the God that I believe in. If that is not your God, you have no need to be offended.

March 15, 2005, 05:15:23 PM
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Trust me, I'm not offended in any way. And although I see GD and others slanderous, it's the direct assaults on Christianity and Jesus that bother me. But that aside, there's no problems at all.

It is humorous though, you never hear people shout "Muhammad, that HURT!" when they hit their toe, or "Buddha curse it all!" It's odd, when you think about it, for a culture so devoid of Jesus in their daily lives, His name is always being misused.

To illustrate, we were actually discussing this over the weekend, and someone shared some teenagers wanted to test this out, so over dinner at a restaurant, one of the faked like they hit their knee on the table and shouted "Oh Buddha!". The waitress freaked out, and said "You just took Buddha's name in vain". But wehn people say "Jesus H. Christ, that hurt!" or "GD", no one bats an eye.

LF, you're right, God isn' up in heaven smiting people down when they say it, but at the same time, when you tell God to "damn it" when refering to the fact your food is cold, you're are asking the Creator of everything, the Master of nature, the King of Kings, to damn your food because it's not suitable to you. Seems a little much for cold food, eh? I know that's not the best example, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
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Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. CS Lewis

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March 15, 2005, 05:36:24 PM
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LF, you're right, God isn' up in heaven smiting people down when they say it, but at the same time, when you tell God to "damn it" when refering to the fact your food is cold, you're are asking the Creator of everything, the Master of nature, the King of Kings, to damn your food because it's not suitable to you. Seems a little much for cold food, eh? I know that's not the best example, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
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Well, I think it's His choice to damn the food or not. Maybe it's thought of as a suggestion, look, here's some food that should be damned, and whether you damn it or not is your choice. Damn, I haven't said damn that many times in one sentence, ever.

And it has always been my opinion that God understands perfectly whatever anyone means to say or anything they think, and if someone doesn't use GD and the likes in a derogatory manner, then He will not receive it as so.
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March 15, 2005, 05:56:11 PM
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It is humorous though, you never hear people shout "Muhammad, that HURT!" when they hit their toe, or "Buddha curse it all!" It's odd, when you think about it, for a culture so devoid of Jesus in their daily lives, His name is always being misused.
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In part, it has to do with the dominant religion in the States, as well as the pervasive Hollywood use of the term in an expletive. matter. However! You are not all on the money there raddy
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And in other notes, Buddha is not god, or a god, he wouldn't give a bouncing buddha's buggernauts if you used his name. In fact, any attachment to his name or his ego would lead him from enlightenment.


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March 15, 2005, 07:21:40 PM
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I've never put much stock in Christinity for a single reason:  it's all about conflict; right versus wrong, evil versus not-so-evil, Heaven versus Hell, humanity versus moderation, humility versus arrogance, human-nature versus doctrine.

It just doesn't have to be that way.

March 15, 2005, 07:43:49 PM
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Exactly, we should just all be running around killing people, free from morality. Just like other animals.
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