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July 28, 2004, 10:13:43 AM
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God can save whoever he sees fit to save, we deserve nothing but the pennance for our sinful actions.
 
again with the salvation.. this is NOT about the salvatory nature of christianity. it's about knowledge thereof. and since the christian god is biased towards a certain subgroup of ppl because of when and where they were born, i cannot accept him. that is not compassion to me.
Then you assert that your idea of compassion is good, and God's is bad.

You have no basis for such a claim.

July 28, 2004, 10:18:21 AM
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Man I wish I had some popcorn and a flag to wave while a read through threads like this.

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July 28, 2004, 11:50:31 AM
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God can save whoever he sees fit to save, we deserve nothing but the pennance for our sinful actions.
 
again with the salvation.. this is NOT about the salvatory nature of christianity. it's about knowledge thereof. and since the christian god is biased towards a certain subgroup of ppl because of when and where they were born, i cannot accept him. that is not compassion to me.
Then you assert that your idea of compassion is good, and God's is bad.

You have no basis for such a claim.
hm. no, i assert that compassion has a set definition. the current description of a christian god who prefers ppl based on place and time makes that god uncompassionate. in your religion this is fully within this god's right. that's fine. i'm just not digging a god who's like that.
"I don't have to know an answer, I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without any purpose, which is the way it really is as far as I can tell. It doesn't frighten me."
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July 28, 2004, 12:41:00 PM
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wow. all i have to say is:

where's rad4christ?

come on tim...

July 28, 2004, 01:33:39 PM
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As I've already stated, God doesn't prefer people based on place and time, He places people in place and time so that those who would accept the truth and be saved are the ones who heard it. At least, that's my understanding and interpretation of that verse. I claim no infallability, but I don't see any apparent contradictions in that interpretations.

And if God doesn't define compassion, who does Niteowl?

July 28, 2004, 01:52:35 PM
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And if God doesn't define compassion, who does Niteowl?
OH there was so an implied different wording in there. I totally saw that as "who does? Niteowl?"  :lol:

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July 28, 2004, 02:13:37 PM
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OH there was so an implied different wording in there. I totally saw that as "who does? Niteowl?"  :lol:
If he really said that, he shouldve been banned just for the major arse kissing ;)

July 28, 2004, 02:40:35 PM
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As I've already stated, God doesn't prefer people based on place and time, He places people in place and time so that those who would accept the truth and be saved are the ones who heard it. At least, that's my understanding and interpretation of that verse. I claim no infallability, but I don't see any apparent contradictions in that interpretations.

And if God doesn't define compassion, who does Niteowl?
ah, so god predetermines, being all knowing, who will accept and be saved and who weren't? so all the folks who were out of place or/and time from the message are in no way able to be saved? seems like it's subverting free will?

compassion is  just a word; from my understanding of the word, the christian god doesn't fit it.
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July 28, 2004, 02:46:50 PM
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ah, so god predetermines, being all knowing, who will accept and be saved and who weren't? so all the folks who were out of place or/and time from the message are in no way able to be saved? seems like it's subverting free will?

compassion is just a word; from my understanding of the word, the christian god doesn't fit it.



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July 28, 2004, 03:04:51 PM
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Folks, this thread is about Final Hope Faith, a Christian gamer hangout. This thread is not the place for debating:
  • Who's religion is better
  • Who's right about God
  • Anything other than Final Hope Faith
Final Hope Faith's forums might be a great place to take these arguments, but they don't belong here. Tone down the intensity and get back on-topic, now.

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July 28, 2004, 05:57:40 PM
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July 28, 2004, 10:30:27 PM
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Wooo wee! This is interesting, isn't it Bob? :lol:

*passes the popcorn*

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