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The Ready Room => Off Topic => Topic started by: rad4Christ on March 08, 2006, 08:57:32 AM

Title: NS and ID
Post by: rad4Christ on March 08, 2006, 08:57:32 AM: We all know Natural-Selection. Now, meet Intelligent Design (http://www.intelligentdesignmod.com).

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: GrayDuck on March 08, 2006, 09:44:08 AM: hmmmm, another source mod to wait a few years for :p Looks like it could be interesting though. Am I to assume Zunni ditched NS for this? That's funny on a couple levels for me (and doesn't look promising for the future of NS if even HE jumped ship!)
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on March 08, 2006, 11:33:21 AM: Jumped and jumped, seemed more like pushed to me... But lets not discuss that here, mod might be interesting, though pretty NSy.
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Post by: Fewlio on March 08, 2006, 05:01:50 PM: Seems like a joke mod directed at NS, really. WE SHALL SEE IF ZUNNI MAKES IT.
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Post by: rad4Christ on March 08, 2006, 06:04:08 PM: I know the lead coder, and most of the team. I assure you they are serious.
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Post by: 2_of_8 on March 08, 2006, 10:09:58 PM: Same here; I can recognize all the names of the moderators on their forum, as fairly well-known people in the community.

Interesting! :)
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Post by: Malevolent on March 08, 2006, 10:34:58 PM: Hmm, interesting in many ways.
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Post by: BobTheJanitor on March 10, 2006, 01:37:03 PM: Oh reeeeeeally..........
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Post by: LowCrawler on March 10, 2006, 02:52:32 PM: I dont have any evidence of this, but my assumption when i saw this site last week was that Zunni and crew mustve gotten sick of UW being basically out of the loop on their own products, so they decided to just go make ns themselves... but as NS and stuff is UW copyright, they called it ID and changed the skulk to mr leapie etc etc.
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Post by: GrayDuck on March 10, 2006, 03:20:50 PM: I made a thread there (http://www.intelligentdesignmod.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=66) about it ---- not too much of a response... yet.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Leaderz0rz on March 10, 2006, 06:29:27 PM: name is lame tbh
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Post by: duherman on March 11, 2006, 01:15:05 AM: Original NS for the win.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: 2_of_8 on March 11, 2006, 03:04:57 PM: Quote
name is lame tbh
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Yea but so is Natural Selection. The weak don't get eliminated, (which is, in essence, what the original idea stood for) - focus cloaker nubs are alive as evar :)

@ID: should be interesting to see a game that has all the bad parts of NS taken out.
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Post by: Leaderz0rz on March 11, 2006, 11:55:42 PM: Quote
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name is lame tbh
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Yea but so is Natural Selection. The weak don't get eliminated, (which is, in essence, what the original idea stood for) - focus cloaker nubs are alive as evar :)

@ID: should be interesting to see a game that has all the bad parts of NS taken out.
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despite the meaning Natural Selection just sounds cooler besides when I see ID i think quake
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Fewlio on March 12, 2006, 12:28:36 AM: Natural Selection flows more smoothly out of the mouth than "intelligent design." Change Intelligent Design to Creative Design and it works a little better, but can still be improved. Yeah, phonetics, I'm hooked on phonics. Intelligent sounds too smart, whoever thought up Intelligent for smartness was a bright fellow indeed.

Also, Bob sighted!
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Post by: tankefugl (in a tent) on March 12, 2006, 04:43:01 AM: Well, "Quake" is quite a weird name too. Anyway, I don't hold anything against it apart from what I already associate with the name: The quasi-scientific claims of ID (not the game), which gives me the shivers.
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Post by: 2_of_8 on March 12, 2006, 08:31:23 AM: The problem with the name is that it's too much of a poke at NS, all while the developers claim to have very little affliation with it.
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Post by: Diablus on March 13, 2006, 12:29:12 PM: "Hey guys lets all go play Intelligent Design!"

"what are you up to?" "Playing Intelligent Design of course!"

"Whos setting up a server for Intelligent Design/ ID ?"

yes im poking fun at the ridiculous name. They need to come up with something more creepy. Intelligent Design sounds like a computer type course at my college rather then a ominous game with space marines vs Nano organic creatures.... they better change the creature names too to somrthing more simple
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Lightning Blue on March 13, 2006, 01:52:56 PM: I can't help but notice one of the "main" NS devs jumping ship and starting a mod of his own thus reflecting the actual state of NS which UWE isn't telling us.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Tooky on March 13, 2006, 03:11:51 PM: Quote
I can't help but notice one of the "main" NS devs jumping ship and starting a mod of his own thus reflecting the actual state of NS which UWE isn't telling us.
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Can you really call Zunni a dev, last I recall, he was more of a spokesperson
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Lightning Blue on March 13, 2006, 04:30:21 PM: Yeah, if you were in the dev group on the forum you qualified as a dev. :p
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Post by: Dubbilex on March 14, 2006, 08:00:58 AM: Anywho, Zunni's been off the team for months and months now.

This probably won't be as good as NS for several reasons. The biggest being that it'll be compared to NS no matter what the official dev stance is. Half of the charm of NS was that most of us had never seen anything like it before.

Anywho, I'll play it but the whole thing seems way too impulsive to turn out alright. Hope they prove me wrong.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Necrosis on March 15, 2006, 04:17:22 PM: It's going to be compared to NS, that's a bad thing as people are going to suggest plagiarism or "loving tribute".

It'll be nice, if it works, and if it appears in timely fashion. I adopt the "wait and see" stance :D
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on April 06, 2006, 04:20:18 PM: hoorah!

I need a new game to play...

tons of you doods already on the ID forums tooooo.. what a coincedince...
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Post by: Black Mage on April 06, 2006, 05:06:33 PM: i smell drama
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on April 06, 2006, 09:21:49 PM: LM. We know drama.
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on April 06, 2006, 11:02:07 PM: I vote that becomes our new slogan, or rather, first slogan ever.
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Post by: Black Mage on April 07, 2006, 10:16:57 AM: i think most of the drama died with ns
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Post by: lolfighter on April 11, 2006, 03:48:28 PM: Not entirely implausible. NS and drama went hand in hand it seems.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Necrosis on April 11, 2006, 05:24:31 PM: New NS patch.

"woo"
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on April 11, 2006, 05:53:14 PM: Quote
New NS patch.

"woo"
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*checks page*

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...We know how much you want to post to the forums again...

...we are talking to a few serious investors and I'm quite hopeful that at least one of those will pan out soon...

Riiiiiiight.
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Post by: Fewlio on April 11, 2006, 06:23:01 PM: Quote
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...we are talking to a few serious investors and I'm quite hopeful that at least one of those will pan out soon...

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EA is buying their souls.
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Black Mage on April 12, 2006, 12:18:55 AM: Quote
NS v3.1.3 changelog
o Gorges only get 50% health regeneration from their own healing spray
o The alien resource tower "hull" has been increased in height to reduce the effectiveness of players hiding inside the model
o The message printed when a player joins a team will not be displayed during the warmup. After the round has started, the message is not displayed more than five times a second to prevent client disconnects

[ December 2nd, 2005 ] :: NS v3.1.2 released
[April 10th, 2006 ] :: NS v3.1.3 released

"in four months and eight days we managed to: nerf combat gorges, play with entity hulls and fix a message bug."
Title: NS and ID
Post by: lolfighter on April 19, 2006, 09:16:55 AM: What? That's hard work!

I certainly couldn't do it.
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Post by: ^Zunni^ on April 23, 2006, 07:44:17 PM: Quote
Anywho, Zunni's been off the team for months and months now.

This probably won't be as good as NS for several reasons. The biggest being that it'll be compared to NS no matter what the official dev stance is. Half of the charm of NS was that most of us had never seen anything like it before.

Anywho, I'll play it but the whole thing seems way too impulsive to turn out alright. Hope they prove me wrong.
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I appreciate comments like this..

I understand how it must appear to people from outside, but if you stop and think about it many of the upcoming mods and recent games (EmpiresMod, Nuclear Dawn, even Insects Infestation and Caliber in some ways) are combinations FPS/RTS. You can trace large chunks of that lineage to NS as well.

Our goals are to provide an experience that expands on what people really liked about 1.04, long epic battles that you really felt a part of. Allowing a teams strategy to shine along with individual skill. Yes, some of the basics are the same, but our implementation will include things they haven't done with NS..

Just wanted to drop a quick note in and say "hi" and "someone showed me this" :)
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Leaderz0rz on April 23, 2006, 09:57:44 PM: it isn't so much the idea..but the work involved. HL2 by far is not an easy engine to mod and takes a long time to get anything reasonable to be released. You might want to take a read through the dev journal post by one of the Fortress Forever guys to see what I mean.

http://www.fortress-forever.com/?a=devj#127 (http://www.fortress-forever.com/?a=devj#127)
Title: NS and ID
Post by: GrayDuck on June 19, 2006, 10:24:43 AM: So, anyone on IRC or 'in the know' happen to know where ID went? I haven't been able to get to the site for a few days.
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on June 19, 2006, 11:09:05 AM: apparently something happened with their hosting:

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<^Zunni^> Our colo facilities decided that they didn't want to be in business any longer without telling us. They locked the doors (with our server inside). Ebag was working on getting the box back this weekend and will be setting it up on another connection later today. Now I haven't talked to him therefore I don't know 100% if he got the box yet but I'm hoping to talk to him today.
<^Zunni^> So that's the situation. We haven't even been able to get remote access to the box to grab the contents to transfer them
<aonomus> And even once its up, it'll take a few days for DNS updates to propagate for the domain
<^Zunni^> 'few' <-- most likely 24-36 hours max
Title: NS and ID
Post by: ^Zunni^ on June 19, 2006, 01:21:46 PM: Yeah, we aren't dead yet.. In fact as soon as the site goes back up, I have a piece of concept art that may turn into our scout class (with a few small edits). So this is killing me more than you know :)
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on June 20, 2006, 02:38:34 AM: SILLY HAT MAN! :o

Someone needs to make a silly-hat version of those intermissions in superhero-movies/series.. TO THE HATMOBILE!
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Post by: ^Zunni^ on June 20, 2006, 08:35:30 AM: Speaking of silly hats, I have some new pics to post. I need time, can I borrow some from someone else?
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on June 20, 2006, 12:23:22 PM: I have plenty of time available, I could either give you some, or use it in your favour... in fact, I could put on a silly hat - or silly object, and take a picture of it, I have some objects available >_>

<_<
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Necrosis on June 21, 2006, 04:55:47 PM: Insects will be nice to see, as will ID, but the cynic in me tells me these projects will vanish.

I remember Brains, and Zombie Panic, they didnt last long enough.

Besides, in 2 months time we're all going to be playing Quake Wars, so something stellar is going to NEED to happen to keep HL2 ticking along as a viable community, imho.
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Post by: lolfighter on June 24, 2006, 08:43:18 PM: Quake Wars? I dunno. Anything with "Quake" in it has been nothing but deathmatch. Deathmatch got old years ago.
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on June 25, 2006, 01:56:54 AM: lolfighter, its full title is.. Quake Wars: Enemy Territory, ie. it's the spiritual sequal to Enemy Territory for Return to Castle Wolfenstein, but now set in the Quake universe. Afaik it takes place during the strogg invasion of earth.
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Post by: lolfighter on June 25, 2006, 09:48:33 AM: Deathmatch on earth is still deathmatch.
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on June 25, 2006, 11:06:41 AM: You never played Enemy Territory did you D:?
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Post by: Fewlio on June 25, 2006, 03:19:38 PM: Quote
Quake Wars? I dunno. Anything with "Quake" in it has been nothing but deathmatch. Deathmatch got old years ago.
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It's more of a battlefield clone, really.
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Post by: ANeM on June 26, 2006, 01:36:38 PM: Quote
I remember Brains, and Zombie Panic, they didnt last long enough.
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Uh.. ZP is still in development. Infact, they released a massive media release (30+ pics) for the source version of ZP just the other day,
Title: NS and ID
Post by: bacon_flaps on June 26, 2006, 07:34:44 PM: Hey guys I was thinking of making a business management mod called "Social Darwinism" and your goal is to become basically Rockefeller, through abuse of the inherent weakness of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, and loopholes in other laws.

Who's with me?
Title: NS and ID
Post by: Fewlio on June 27, 2006, 02:59:37 AM: Quote
Hey guys I was thinking of making a business management mod called "Social Darwinism" and your goal is to become basically Rockefeller, through abuse of the inherent weakness of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, and loopholes in other laws.

Who's with me?
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I'm in, to make MILLIONS! Oh wait game.... I'm still in.
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Post by: Kodiac on June 28, 2006, 06:52:25 PM: Any word yet on what's going on with ID?
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Post by: lolfighter on June 28, 2006, 09:33:10 PM: It's in development. Had recent forum trouble, but it's mostly solved, although the old posts may have been lost. Development continues. No eta on release yet. :p
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Post by: aeroripper on June 30, 2006, 01:01:42 AM: LOL@ bacon flaps

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yes im poking fun at the ridiculous name. They need to come up with something more creepy. Intelligent Design sounds like a computer type course at my college rather then a ominous game with space marines vs Nano organic creatures.... they better change the creature names too to somrthing more simp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design)

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Anyways. it has an awful name. Not to be a jerk, but its kind of lame to pick a name from recent news headlines. I'd rather it be some obscure but cool sounding molecular name than ID.

If it was a different name, I'd probably be all for it.
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Post by: Renegade on June 30, 2006, 10:26:51 AM: The link is down. Looks like the recent court decision knocked it over with the rest of the movement.
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Post by: ^Zunni^ on July 01, 2006, 07:52:57 AM: Quote
The link is down. Looks like the recent court decision knocked it over with the rest of the movement.
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and yet... IT'S BACK!!!!

Check the news posts for information about what happened.