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Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: aeroripper on September 10, 2005, 02:06:54 AM
http://www.dystopia-game.com/ (http://www.dystopia-game.com/)

Anybody played it?  It's an absolute blast once you get the hang of it and funner than sourceforts :D

Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: ANeM on September 10, 2005, 02:55:48 AM
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http://www.dystopia-game.com/ (http://www.dystopia-game.com/)

Anybody played it?  It's an absolute blast once you get the hang of it and funner than sourceforts :D
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Only one map though, and chances are it will get boring after a while.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on September 10, 2005, 03:01:31 AM
yarr i played it, and yes it got a bit boring yesterday for me, but that was mainly "boredom" out of frustration i think :S I think it's very fun when most people know what to do, and when there's teamplay :D.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Leaderz0rz on September 10, 2005, 09:33:08 AM
yea at first I had no idea what I was doing but now I know where the objectives are and things so I can contribute to my team more :p but there is still alot of people who run around shooting walls
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Anarki3x6 on September 10, 2005, 09:45:28 AM
i like the game, only reason i got bored with it was playing the same map over and over.. pretty sure it'll be more interesting with more missions and stuff, and maybe bigger battles!
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: aeroripper on September 10, 2005, 11:19:15 AM
I think in the final version their having vehicles too :D
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Fewlio on September 10, 2005, 11:40:55 PM
Eh, had some good runs with one other guy, got bored. Knifing people(katanaing!) is fun though, I have determined that heavy is best for corps and light is best for punks too. I got bored of the map and the game, hacking was a blast though(even though I didnt do much and it wasnt much). The game is no complete and there isn't any other maps, so of course people are going to get bored. I would recommend you all play it at least until you get one good game, then since you know what it is going to be like every time you can stop playing until the game actually comes out. If there were vehicles it would probably have more replay value as a demo because you can just go nuts with them BF1942 style lololol(which is why everyone like that demo enough to buy it).
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Kodiac on September 11, 2005, 09:17:53 AM
INdeed, it does look awesome...perhaps for an upcoming reg night we could try it out?
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: SlickDizzy on September 11, 2005, 04:45:46 PM
I didn't realize there was anything playable out for it...I'm downloading it right now.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on September 11, 2005, 04:51:43 PM
I present you!... THE NEW PLAYER GUIDE! (http://dystopia-game.com/newplayerguide/) dun dunn! DUNNN!!!!!!!
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Fewlio on September 11, 2005, 09:28:10 PM
Didn't really help me at all potterpotter. I just started playing the game then found that while playing because there was a few things I didn't understand. It didn't help me with what I didn't understand at all. Everything that I read from it you can figure out in a few minutes >_>.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on September 12, 2005, 07:32:10 AM
yea I know, but seriously not everyone figures it out, and it's also for some pre-playing info :S
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: rad4Christ on September 12, 2005, 08:20:41 AM
Read the New Player Guide, seems pretty easy to pick up. Howeve,r playing the other night with Redford and others I think I'll try a larger server until I learn the map. A nub who has no idea where to go on a 3 man team doesn't do well for his teammates :p

I do like this concept. I may even take some time and try to create a map for it. I don't know, but if this becomes a free mod, LM should think about it. But I'm looking forward to some user maps to give more than the same map over and over.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Goldy on September 12, 2005, 02:58:59 PM
It makes you feel bad for every time you yelled at a noob in ns, doesn't it?
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: rad4Christ on September 13, 2005, 06:57:55 AM
It seems NS could learn something from the Dystopia Dev team:

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Our work doesn't stop here. Over the next week we hope to have an update ready
for release to fix up a couple of bugs which snuck through into the demo version. After this our next biggest priority is to release more maps.
There's no 3 month hiatus, no down website for long periods of time, and lots of communication of what's going on.

More than the loss of newness and excitement of the NS world, I think people are just as tired of the lack of dedication the dev team has had to the community (sorry, tanke), and especially the seemingly poorly organized UWE and Mod team.

I'm just as excited about the DYS team's communication and enthusiasm as I am about enjoying the game.

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Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: aeroripper on September 13, 2005, 11:06:51 AM
Lunixmonster dystopia server ftw!
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: holy_devil on September 13, 2005, 01:03:01 PM
LM dys would be leet.

note to anyone whos trying to play it or hate(s/d) it;

i know i didn't like it at first, but i kept on playing and learning everything, and it became enjoyable. most fun i've had in a fps in a long while. has a few problems here and there, can use this and that, etc, but every game is like that. besides, for just one map and a demo release, this is really nice.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Anarki3x6 on September 13, 2005, 03:01:22 PM
DOOOOO IT

gimme gimme lm dystopia nownownow!
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Fewlio on September 13, 2005, 04:12:36 PM
Eh the replayability is too low with the current version, I say we wait until a real version of it comes out. Just to restate, you must try it and play it on a big server, fun just to have a taste of what is to come in the future.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: SlickDizzy on September 13, 2005, 06:49:13 PM
This game is pretty awesome, but they really need to release some more maps. I'm still having fun with the first one though.

EXTREMELY team-oriented game.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: lolfighter on September 13, 2005, 08:17:14 PM
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It seems NS could learn something from the Dystopia Dev team:

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Our work doesn't stop here. Over the next week we hope to have an update ready
for release to fix up a couple of bugs which snuck through into the demo version. After this our next biggest priority is to release more maps.
There's no 3 month hiatus, no down website for long periods of time, and lots of communication of what's going on.

More than the loss of newness and excitement of the NS world, I think people are just as tired of the lack of dedication the dev team has had to the community (sorry, tanke), and especially the seemingly poorly organized UWE and Mod team.

I'm just as excited about the DYS team's communication and enthusiasm as I am about enjoying the game.[...]
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Don't get too eager. Do you really think they're going to write "yeah we're gonna find a hacker to attack our forums to give ourselves a convenient excuse for shutting them down and then we'll leave 'em that way for an arbitrary amount of time?" I doubt it. There was a time when NS was the hot new thing that everybody was talking about and the NS developers (Flayra first and foremost) were worshipped like rockstars. Don't just rashly give your heart away to somebody who might just snap it in half and toss it over their shoulder.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: SwiftSpear on September 14, 2005, 01:10:56 AM
Dystopia is ok, but largely unbalanced and quite dissapointing in many ways. Too many of the weapons the classes use are mostly unusable in comparison to thier optional counterparts, and alot of the good ideas were implimented in a fairly dissapointing way. Heavy classes kill everything with thier minigun, and are pretty much useless with either other weapon, lights have some decent stopping power between the shotty and cloak/blade, they also have the advantage of being nessicary for hacking. Mid players are largely useless except in the rare occation you need to spam the hell out of a tight doorway with the GL. They really don't counter lights effectively enough, and they get slaugtered by the minigun just as quickly and easily as lights do.

There was a really cool concept behind this mod, and I have to say I really enjoy the assault, objective based, style gameplay. But the weapons and classes are no where NEAR polished up enough as far as balance goes for a demo release (they should have called it a public beta) and I personally find cookie cutter teams a HUGE dissapointment.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: a civilian on September 14, 2005, 01:32:23 AM
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Heavy classes kill everything with thier minigun, and are pretty much useless with either other weapon,
Minigun reduces mobility so much that you can just snipe them around corners or grenade them.  I always take ion cannon as heavy.

Or maybe I just suck at the minigun.  I've just never done nearly as well with it as with the ion cannon or sniper rifle (yes, I don't find mediums useless either).
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: SwiftSpear on September 14, 2005, 02:15:23 AM
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Heavy classes kill everything with thier minigun, and are pretty much useless with either other weapon,
Minigun reduces mobility so much that you can just snipe them around corners or grenade them.  I always take ion cannon as heavy.

Or maybe I just suck at the minigun.  I've just never done nearly as well with it as with the ion cannon or sniper rifle (yes, I don't find mediums useless either).
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I didn't mind the sniper although I found the AR overall more powerful...  remove the heavy class from the game and mediums are fine, but 1v1 mediums always seem to get smashed by heavies and on the other end they are usually only able to match if not slightly outdo the damage that lights do.  Given the choice I would rather just light for the extra speed bonus and extra implant slots.

Minigun does slow the game down for the heavy a fair bit, but it allows you to decimate most opponents in a fraction of a second without much concious thought about how precisely you are aiming your crosshair.  Considering the heavy is so much of a tank that it is rarely hard to hit anyways, the lack of a bit of movement speed isn't usually an issue if you pick your battlegrounds well and don't let stuff sneak up on you unexpectedly.  And how can you call the current rocket launcher balanced?
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Fewlio on September 14, 2005, 03:09:01 PM
I have to disagree, I find it much more balanced then swift is letting on. Sure the minigun is godly, but a good nade by a light allows for him to get cloak-owned. I also find the ion cannon to work much better at the beginning of a round, and it's also good if you can aim well(so I take minigun later). The rocket launcher owns hardcore, thank god it takes 14 seconds to reload, duck and cover! Swift you forgot to bitch about the spidermines, I mean you can't even shoot them and you've gotta run from em.

I would also have to say that light seems much better for punks and heavy much better for corps, defenders don't need speed attackers do! I've never even bothered with any other light gun than the shotgun because I usually just katana people, so I can't say much about them. I've never played medium either because heavy and light have always worked out so well for me(lol).

What I have noticed is that the team with the better players always seems to win, just like NS, which is in essence balance! I mean I was playing 10vs10 and most the people were basically "HOW DO I SHOT?" and not very good. One guy on the other team had very good aim and rarely missed with the ion cannon(jumping + strafing = lol netcode, YOU MISS ME!). Myself and this one other guy on punks always got us a win in under 20 minutes once we started working together, on corps they would never get the next spawn up from docks(minigun is awesome as a door defense, tough when you get six stun nades thrown at you though). Of course on corps the guy I teamed up with always went medium.

On punks it doesn't seem to matter as much if everyone dies, the worst that happens is you lose a spawnpoint. On corps if you all die, the punks get the next spawnpoint or they destroy the core. With an hour to play, it's real easy to take your time as punks and take down the corps all at the same time and hack the next spawn. On corps you need your guards and you need your ninjas to hassle their hackers/take back the spawn.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: SwiftSpear on September 14, 2005, 09:58:52 PM
With the minigun you can rowkill a good 3-4 lights and mids before they get enough damage on you to tip the scales.  With the rocket launcher you get your one free kill if you have a compitent shot, then you better hope that the guy was a rambo or else you are bonified screwed because you won't be shooting a heavy weapon again for more then enough time for any weapon to kill you 5 times over.  The ion gun is great as well if you make your shots count, but I find that often it just makes the heavy vulnerable to light players since they get up on you so fast.  I'd much prefer my mini to rape anything that comes within 20 feet of me instantly.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Fewlio on September 14, 2005, 10:21:56 PM
Aye I'd much rather prefer the minigun myself, but frequently I have taken them out as a cloaked light lololol. RPG has a long cooldown because if used correctly it is way too good, I'm glad less people use it. With the current version of dystopia I actually would like to see a good clan match take place, I am intrigued by the idea of dystopia clans to be honest, I'd rather wait till next version before I went and got myself active. I would really like to see two teams or "pro" players play each other in this game for a few hours, just to see which guns are really the "best."
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: a civilian on September 14, 2005, 10:56:28 PM
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With the minigun you can rowkill a good 3-4 lights and mids before they get enough damage on you to tip the scales.
If the mediums and lights play smart and don't expose themselves to your fire for long, they can just pick at you around corners without taking much damage.

I know that I prefer going against miniguns to going against ion cannons.

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With the rocket launcher you get your one free kill if you have a compitent shot, then you better hope that the guy was a rambo or else you are bonified screwed because you won't be shooting a heavy weapon again for more then enough time for any weapon to kill you 5 times over.
The rocket launcher is a support weapon.  Its power is to soften up a group for the rest of the team.  Or just to pick off a threat.  Either way, it requires team support.

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The ion gun is great as well if you make your shots count, but I find that often it just makes the heavy vulnerable to light players since they get up on you so fast.  I'd much prefer my mini to rape anything that comes within 20 feet of me instantly.
I don't find it too difficult to fry a light before he closes on me unless he surprises me.  But yes, once they close they are somewhat more difficult to kill.

I find that the ion cannon's main weakness is getting swarmed; due to its low rate of fire it has trouble dealing with multiple targets.  I usually try to stand back from a melee and pick off the enemies that are attacking my teammates.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Leaderz0rz on September 15, 2005, 02:01:35 AM
i 98 percent of the time play medium with AR becuase I can get thermal and med plant with increased energy. I can kill cloakers and heal my teammates or myself. I am constantly on top of any server I play on so I dunno where you think mediums are usless =p Head to head i will die to a heavy but if I get the drop on them almost always I can kill them.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: JohnTheGarbageman on September 28, 2005, 06:02:51 PM
I think its funny that the one weapon SwiftSpear complains about is the only one thats nearly entirely useless. The Minigun is a glorified shotgun - maybe if you run a sound suppressor its workable, but otherwise you might as well just use the fatman fist.

Minigunners are insanely comftorable to go up against, like civ said. They can't chase, they can barely round a corner to finish a kill and they can't shoot at any range. At best they might hope for you to run into them, which gets them a kill. But "really unaware people" aren't a high priority target to be quite honest.

The next most hilarious thing about the minigun is of course that it stops firing if you aren't touching the ground - so even just getting shot and knocked off the ground a bit can stop your firing.

Whatever, Minigunners are a great source for Leg Booster kills.
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: Black Mage on September 28, 2005, 07:08:55 PM
light with boltgun is winner
you can lob an area effect bolt at medium to extreme range (with the option for manual detonation to boot) and then cloak and close for a bolt or katana to finish
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: SwiftSpear on October 04, 2005, 06:32:27 PM
I figured out the RL doesn't need to be the current weapon for the RL time to run down... now it's one of my favoriate weapons :p
Title: Dystopia demo
Post by: aeroripper on October 04, 2005, 08:16:36 PM
I really like  the "last kill" screen on the RL :D

You can usually get 3 kills if you get 1 with the rocket, then launch your spider mines and they'll take out the other two with maybe a round from machine pistol.

But by that time their probably already hurt from other players