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Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on June 30, 2005, 07:30:38 AM
So anyone else seen this yet? I have to say, the whole portion starting from when the storm began to when they were fleeing down the freeway in the car was the most awesome action sequence ever (at least visually). It all slowed down too much after that. There was plenty of cool action, but nothing could even come close to matching that opening. And there was not much of a story to fill that gap.. add to that already knowing how it would end, from the book.. meh. As with the more recent Spielberg movies, it COULD have been way better.

BTW, the tripod scene at the end felt and looked a lot like HL2. Oh, and it's too bad one of those cool aliens wasn't used in Signs. :p
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Manta on June 30, 2005, 08:21:19 AM
I haven't seen it yet, but a friend was talking about it at lunch and ruined the ending.  >_< I'm still going to see it, though.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Malevolent on June 30, 2005, 10:18:17 AM
I'm going to see it Saturday. I'll definitely come back and say how awesome or bad it was (but most reviews have been good).
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Diablus on June 30, 2005, 10:18:18 AM
im seeing it in abouttt.... 45 min  ^_^

hope its not sold out >_<
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Bryan on June 30, 2005, 11:59:25 AM
i saw it...goldys review is about right.

Bryan
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Diablus on June 30, 2005, 02:01:06 PM
I just came abck from the movie, overall it was great. They could have gone more into the military aspect with cooler battles and such (such as the aliens themselves fighting instetead of the tripods and more ground fighting action) but I thought the movie rocked. The aliens could have looked scarier, not  some cute little stuffed animal like independence day knockoff type. And I liked how the movie gave you an adrenaline rush, always on your toes. And then when you find out the Aliens are using humans as fertilizer, that part just freaked me out. but i give it a A  ^_^  for great special effects and a pretty good storyline. Seemed rushed though
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Anarki3x6 on June 30, 2005, 02:50:11 PM
i liked it.. told the wotw story quite well + tom cruise is a bad ass.

would be cool if they made a special ending where the aliens win for the dvd or something  >:D
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on June 30, 2005, 03:06:27 PM
I don't understand why the movie begins with an incredible action sequence, then everything is slowed down to snail's pace in comparison. True, it was based on the book, but I hardly doubt anyone would have minded if it was just nonstop mind-blowing action. It was already hugely different from the book. Short of that, at LEAST save the coolest stuff for the end. The pacing was all wrong! I think The Matrix is a perfect example of how to pace a movie.

Anyway, it was still cool as hell. :p
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: LowCrawler on June 30, 2005, 08:16:54 PM
The ending was weak. In their ultimate study of humans they didnt bother to realize we catch a cold once in a while? freaking moron aliens.


I dont care how true to the novel it was... the movie was wonderful and then youre like..... the hell? theyre just gonna FALL OVER DEAD. WTF DID THEY RUN OUT OF BATTERIES?!?!?!
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on June 30, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
The way the aliens died was great because it made perfect sense - as in the book. The cheesiness, however, was not good.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Anarki3x6 on June 30, 2005, 09:42:46 PM
damn noob aliens... entire different world calls for different precautions

either way! humans wouldnt be safe for much longer.. after all the aliens already on earth die and the aliens in space or mars or wherever the hell they live figure out their dumb mistake theyll come back for more. and this time its personal.  :wacko:
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 01, 2005, 10:44:46 AM
lol, yeah. Maybe if they didn't greedily eat and drink everything, like the narrator said they did. I mean they show up on a new planet, the first thing they do is pig out on everything? They don't run any tests first? I think in the book it was just being in the environment that killed them, not specifically the eating and the drinking of things. :p
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: LowCrawler on July 01, 2005, 11:54:30 AM
they didnt explain what those blood roots were... just some vague food source thing that apparently just happened to be fertilized w/ human blood... btw, how'd they grow it before they invaded humans? with abuctees? they didnt explain WHY the aliens had been watching wanting to invade for so long... they didnt explain how/when the machines were buried. They didnt attack with anything but those bigass tripod guys (hardly an invasion force) and the best thing they had to detect people was a big eye with a flashlight? no thermal imaging, heartbeat detection, sonar?


the movie was lame
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Necrosis on July 01, 2005, 02:17:16 PM
I still prefer the book, tbh. The book describes that the Martians subsist on blood, for one.

At the same time, I like the imagery of the film, and its a shame the two couldn't have been better combined.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Diablus on July 01, 2005, 05:01:55 PM
well the whole point is that the Aliens overlooked such a simple aspect (the simple form of life) which ultimately wins over the most advanced technology. The Aliens were not stupid, they just were too cocky and thought they *knew* they could win (which is a possible reason why they didnt send "so many aliens" to invade. As for the roots Lowcrawler they started to grow them after all humans were cleared from an area, then used the captured humans as fertilizer to help spread the infestation, the Tripods walked right over the worlds most strongest military power and weaponry with ease, Hardly an invasion force you say? Why send all your men to invade when you could keep the occupation of soldiers and casualties to a bare minimum? While still having enough for reinforcments incase anything goes wrong / having those idle military powers to be used somewhere else?

The Aliens also waited so long for invasion because they need BLOOD. The human population was at its highest, its like what.. over 6 billion people in the world today or some bogus number like that? Thats alot of blood. and who knows, they were probably invading other planets throughout those millions of years while keeping an eye on Earth.

As for the rest of the non explaining of detailed crap within only a 2 hour time limit  : The Unknown is mans greatest fear. Would you prefer they cut out all of the action and replace is with boring dialouge from a scientist? You cant have everything. The movie could have been better, yes. But then again EVERY movie can be better
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Mr.Bill on July 01, 2005, 09:39:18 PM
"A battle the aliens have been planning for millions of years, and were somehow able to transport their equipment down to earth before there were any humans... because god knows you want to wait a while so the humans can catch up a little. Whilst at the same time NOT noticing that whoever goes down to work on the planet dies of some strang thing called infection...."


Other then that bit, and the fact that the EMP thing was TOTAL bs, I mean come on the video camera, AND car would be ****ed beyond repair. but NO they DID work after wards!

but yeah other then that I liked it. the train scene was AWSOME. I couldn't stop laughing :-D
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: LowCrawler on July 02, 2005, 11:39:48 AM
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well the whole point is that the Aliens overlooked such a simple aspect (the simple form of life) which ultimately wins over the most advanced technology. The Aliens were not stupid, they just were too cocky and thought they *knew* they could win (which is a possible reason why they didnt send "so many aliens" to invade. As for the roots Lowcrawler they started to grow them after all humans were cleared from an area, then used the captured humans as fertilizer to help spread the infestation, the Tripods walked right over the worlds most strongest military power and weaponry with ease, Hardly an invasion force you say? Why send all your men to invade when you could keep the occupation of soldiers and casualties to a bare minimum? While still having enough for reinforcments incase anything goes wrong / having those idle military powers to be used somewhere else?

The Aliens also waited so long for invasion because they need BLOOD. The human population was at its highest, its like what.. over 6 billion people in the world today or some bogus number like that? Thats alot of blood. and who knows, they were probably invading other planets throughout those millions of years while keeping an eye on Earth.

As for the rest of the non explaining of detailed crap within only a 2 hour time limit  : The Unknown is mans greatest fear. Would you prefer they cut out all of the action and replace is with boring dialouge from a scientist? You cant have everything. The movie could have been better, yes. But then again EVERY movie can be better
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fine but still.... how did they grow their stuff before humans? did they find other planets that had blood? and how did they know that blood would work?
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Rath on July 02, 2005, 11:54:14 AM
psshhh sounds like most of you have problems with the IDEA behind the movie which is off a very old book...

I think Spielberg did an incredibly good job adapting an old book/radio broadcast/movie to a modern screen.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Necrosis on July 02, 2005, 02:11:11 PM
Blood is a pretty universal substance to all living things on Earth, including plants, if you take it at the most basic level.

Blood is a liquid, easily absorbed, contains water, sugar, protein, fats, all sorts of predigested goodies - normally you need a set of intestines, a lot of acid, and a complicated food mashing system in order to loosen up the nutrients. Blood, however, contains the end result which is easily absorbed into body cells.


The Martians could have been waiting to harvest Earth, have bred humans for the specific purpose of harvesting, been harvesting other worlds, or another case to consider is that perhaps there weren't really many Martians left, hence why the invasion force was pretty small and why the Martians were keen to glut themselves on the foodstuffs.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: SuicidaL MonkeY on July 02, 2005, 03:51:16 PM
The movie wasn't revolved around the aliens like all other movies, the Alien movies, the Predator, throughout the movies we learn more and more about the aliens, i repeat, "movies".  This "movie" was about survival, and they just made it lol.

Im happy how this movie stepped aside from the "alien" standard in movies, the reason i think they didnt explain alot of things, well, spielberg, because unlike jurrasic park, where they already knew how the mosters would act, in this movie they didnt. All of the sudden a crud load of lightning strikes, the thing gets up and starts going maniacal. People running for their lives with you know what all over them

It was more of a suspense movie, we knew what they were but we had no idea what they were, the ending, well, i thought it was alright, i liked the blood farms they started to create, and how the humans got their chance because of the bacteria and viral entities in our air which we've survived from for a loooooooooooong time.



good movie, but yeah more in depth would be nice, perhaps the next one, if its to be.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Malevolent on July 02, 2005, 04:44:30 PM
The reason it wasn't in-depth was because it's a movie. If you want to know more of the reasons behind things, read the book. As you call tell, I finally saw it today.

I thought it was a pretty awesome movie. The special effects were very good (uncannily realistic sometimes). The aliens looked good. The acting was also good. Dakota Fanning (Rachel in the movie) acted very well for a little girl (as good as an adult even). I also liked the tense situations in it. They were handled quite well.

The best part was the beginning since it's a sensory overload with all the chaos and house being thrown everywhere.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 02, 2005, 10:28:02 PM
The freeway being demolished, sending houses and cars towards the fleeing family, was incredible. That whole portion of the movie was mind-numbing.

The biggest problem though is the giant plot hole. How could those ships never be discovered underground? It's impossible. I guess it did make for a nice change from the book.. and of course it allowed for that awesome scene where the first ship came up from the ground... drool...
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Rath on July 02, 2005, 10:54:22 PM
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The biggest problem though is the giant plot hole. How could those ships never be discovered underground? It's impossible. I guess it did make for a nice change from the book.. and of course it allowed for that awesome scene where the first ship came up from the ground... drool...
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You dont know how far underground they were.  For all we know they were fairly close to the center of the earth.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Diablus on July 03, 2005, 09:11:48 AM
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The biggest problem though is the giant plot hole. How could those ships never be discovered underground? It's impossible. I guess it did make for a nice change from the book.. and of course it allowed for that awesome scene where the first ship came up from the ground... drool...
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You dont know how far underground they were.  For all we know they were fairly close to the center of the earth.
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hes got a point, they DID come down through LIGHTNING and it did take some time for them to reach the surface and cause havok.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Ulatoh on July 03, 2005, 10:39:40 AM
1.) why were they frying people with a death ray if they needed their blood

2.) why did they even have deathrays if they had an impenetrable shield

3.)emp thing isnt necessarily bs since it wasnt actually lightning

Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: SuicidaL MonkeY on July 03, 2005, 10:51:26 AM
the first thing i said when those machines elevated outta the ground was.....



STRYDER
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 03, 2005, 11:38:16 AM
They don't need a reason for causing havoc! As for how deep they were buried.. it was misleading because the cops said that compared to other parts of town "there's nothing down there." As if the only reason it hadn't been discovered was because there were no sewers/pipes/power lines/etc in that area.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Manta on July 03, 2005, 11:51:16 AM
I just watched it. I liked the movie overall, especially the beginning, and I didn't really find any parts of the movie to be slow-paced. I did find it ridiculous that the ex-wife's house and street were completely untouched. What the hell? It was also kind of cheesy when the alien slumped out of the chute and died. I almost laughed out loud when the soldier picked its arm up with the end of his gun.

Also, I would have liked to see more about how his son survived and got to Boston. I felt that it was a hole in the story that needed to be filled.

My favorite part would have to be the sheer horror of the tripods' first emergence, when they start blasting away. After that, I liked the part in the crazy guy's basement.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Malevolent on July 03, 2005, 11:51:41 AM
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1.) why were they frying people with a death ray if they needed their blood

2.) why did they even have deathrays if they had an impenetrable shield

3.)emp thing isnt necessarily bs since it wasnt actually lightning
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1) The aliens came to exterminate everyone on the planet. This included many things that we built (but not everything). At the beginning of the movie, it showed that by using the rays, people would herd together and run en masse. This would allow for easy extermination and picking up people. The aliens would not need the 6+ billion people on earth to make the blood farms. Killing several thousand people in a major city would make no difference. And then there's the fact that armies are shooting everything they have at them. It might not hurt them, but I think it would get very tiresome.

2) And then there's the fact that armies are shooting everything they have at them. It might not hurt them, but I think it would get very tiresome.

3) Don't know what you're saying for sure, but...the emp was to make it so people couldn't drive away or communicate easily with each other. After all, communication is one of the world's strongest weapons today. And then yeah it wasn't actual lightning.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: duherman on July 03, 2005, 08:04:23 PM
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I did find it ridiculous that the ex-wife's house and street were completely untouched. What the hell?
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I watched it last thursday, I got to say that it's a great movie. What I never understood was how his son made it to boston, after there was a big explosion where he went towards. Oh and Manta, I believe the tripods never reached Boston yet, it was at boston where they started to die. Yeah and they do look like stryders :D
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: rad4Christ on July 03, 2005, 08:41:14 PM
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The Aliens also waited so long for invasion because they need BLOOD. The human population was at its highest, its like what.. over 6 billion people in the world today or some bogus number like that?

Haven't read any further, but here's an interesting fact. There are more people alive today than people that have died over all of history. In other words, if every person in the world decided to pull a Hamlet, there wouldn't be enough skulls in the world for every one. Kinda freaky when you think of it...

Carry on.

I saw the movie, pretty good, nothing amazing. I'm not a fan of Tom Cruise, but the thing that made the move for me were the human dynamics. It's true though, the part with the ferry. Masses of people are dangerous...

If a building is on fire, and you go to the inhabitants one by one, they'll walk out calmly. Tell a whole crowd at once, and they'll stamped and try to kill each other to escape.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 04, 2005, 10:19:41 AM
Not only did they look like stryders, but that building at the end looked like it was from City 17. And then they shot rockets at the tripod.. It was uncanny how much that part felt like HL2.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: aeroripper on July 05, 2005, 06:10:24 PM
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Haven't read any further, but here's an interesting fact. There are more people alive today than people that have died over all of history. In other words, if every person in the world decided to pull a Hamlet, there wouldn't be enough skulls in the world for every one. Kinda freaky when you think of it...

Where'd you hear that from?  All of history?  

http://desip.igc.org/populationmaps.html (http://desip.igc.org/populationmaps.html)

Go to this site (best one i could find that was credible).  Figure 50 years for every generation to die out.  It makes for a very rough estimate, but from 1350AD and on i got over 9 billion people.  This is only in the last 650 years.  And although its already been disproven with these numbers, at what point to you draw the line of measuring our beginning?  If you go by the appearance of homo sapiens that would be around 130,000 years old that that have been found.

http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/sap.htm (http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/sap.htm)

It's impossible for the current population to outnumber the WHOLE of human existance that's ever existed.  Where did all of us come from then, 6 billion people just doesn't come 1 billion people, because everybody didn't have 12 kids.  There were generations and generations before us.  I don't know quite how to put it into words but its mathmatically impossible.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Malevolent on July 05, 2005, 11:00:40 PM
Hmm, looks like our world will go to **** in 45+ years according to that first link.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: ziggot on July 06, 2005, 12:28:50 AM
Spielberg should just stop making movies. I think he is off his rocker along with Lucas and Tom Cruz. In all his movies now-a-days it seems he only does things if it will make a cool shot, forget plot and common sense.

My friend and I busted out laughing when in boston the soldiers of the 10th mountain were walking all tactically and using hand signals next to a MASSIVE crowd of people.

The camera at the begining made we want to cry, he must have had it in an EMP proof case or something. You can find it on the sony website I think.

I agree with LC, this movie blew my balls.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 06, 2005, 06:53:06 AM
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Hmm, looks like our world will go to **** in 45+ years according to that first link.
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I think right now world leaders are hoping aliens will either kill a few billion of us, or give us a ton of food. Or both, like that episode of the Twilight Zone I saw on July 4th, with the Kanamits. I think we should invest more money in space programs to speed up the time until that meeting occurs. Then again, they do just seem to waste it by doing things like smashing into comets. :p Maybe next we can fly some monkeys into the sun.

As for the goofs in the movie, people with a lot of time on their hands have been discussing it endlessly on the IMDB.com forums. Here's an explanation I read:

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A) EMP affects devices that are working.
B) A change of battery would enable the video camera (and, yes there was a 35 mm camera AND a video camera)
C) The EMP (or whatever!) fried the starter and the solenoid. Ray tells the mechanic to change the solenoid before replacing the starter before he knows there has been an invasion...when he comes back, he, therefore realizes that that van is the only one in the area that will work.
Yeah, I'm working right now, thus all the posting. :p
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: ziggot on July 06, 2005, 11:25:19 AM
okay, so the EMP only kills working electronic devices.
So EVERYONE was driving their car at that moment. No one was just chilling at home. ZOMG its still a plot hole.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Necrosis on July 06, 2005, 12:03:38 PM
I think if people cant suspend disbelief, they should be barred from cinemas.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: LowCrawler on July 06, 2005, 12:06:36 PM
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Spielberg should just stop making movies. I think he is off his rocker along with Lucas and Tom Cruz. In all his movies now-a-days it seems he only does things if it will make a cool shot, forget plot and common sense.

My friend and I busted out laughing when in boston the soldiers of the 10th mountain were walking all tactically and using hand signals next to a MASSIVE crowd of people.

The camera at the begining made we want to cry, he must have had it in an EMP proof case or something. You can find it on the sony website I think.

I agree with LC, this movie blew my balls.
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i wouldnt say its really speilberg's fault... he didnt write the movie he just made it. And its H G Wells' plot that sucks.

as for the soldiers, it makes perfect sense... they were blending in with the massive swarm of people... the tripods would have flipped and gone into total omgomgomgkill it mode when they saw the soldiers that could pose a threat, especially if they knew the shields were down. the civilians werent a threat.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: ziggot on July 06, 2005, 12:24:14 PM
The tri-pods couldn't even walk straight. They looked drunk. Of course only Tom Cruise could see this, the soldiers who had been fighting these things for days didnt notice. They dont have that top notch scientologist training.

Oh, and I dont think HG Wells knew what an EMP was so that isnt his fault.

I do know how to suspend disbelief, I like Once Upon a Time in Mexico and The Big Hit and neither of those movies were the least bit believable. James Bond is unbelievable but those movies rock.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Malevolent on July 06, 2005, 01:02:21 PM
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As for the goofs in the movie, people with a lot of time on their hands have been discussing it endlessly on the IMDB.com forums. Here's an explanation I read:

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A) EMP affects devices that are working.
B) A change of battery would enable the video camera (and, yes there was a 35 mm camera AND a video camera)
C) The EMP (or whatever!) fried the starter and the solenoid. Ray tells the mechanic to change the solenoid before replacing the starter before he knows there has been an invasion...when he comes back, he, therefore realizes that that van is the only one in the area that will work.
Yeah, I'm working right now, thus all the posting. :p
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Yay, closure. It makes sense now.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: aeroripper on July 06, 2005, 05:39:30 PM
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The tri-pods couldn't even walk straight. They looked drunk. Of course only Tom Cruise could see this, the soldiers who had been fighting these things for days didnt notice. They dont have that top notch scientologist training.

lol, i also thought it was funny how tom cruise always managed to be at the center of the action.  Oh well its a movie after all :-p
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Rath on July 06, 2005, 10:18:33 PM
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The tri-pods couldn't even walk straight. They looked drunk. Of course only Tom Cruise could see this, the soldiers who had been fighting these things for days didnt notice. They dont have that top notch scientologist training.

lol, i also thought it was funny how tom cruise always managed to be at the center of the action.  Oh well its a movie after all :-p
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Crazy stuff like what was happening to Tom Cruises character(explosions, stealing vehicles, mass crowd hysteria, searching houses, army attacking tripods) was probly happening all over the world.  The only real thing that might not have happened elsewhere also was when he put the grenade into the tripod.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Diablus on July 07, 2005, 06:11:25 AM
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I think if people cant suspend disbelief, they should be barred from cinemas.
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Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 07, 2005, 06:47:43 AM
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I think if people cant suspend disbelief, they should be barred from cinemas.
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There's a pretty big difference between suspending your disbelief of things that are fantastic or impossible.. and ignoring gaping plot holes, things that make no sense logically in the context of the impossible setting.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Necrosis on July 07, 2005, 04:36:25 PM
Gaping plot hole? The original Matrix had colossal gaping holes in the story, yet it fascinated people far far more than the sequels, where the viewer was spoonfed the plot. In an ideal world the sequels would never have been made, and The Matrix would be truly iconic.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: ziggot on July 11, 2005, 10:50:59 PM
yeah, i really liked the first matrix, all the sequels detracted from it.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 12, 2005, 07:48:19 AM
Every movie has tons of problems, as seen on this website: http://www.nitpickers.com/movies/repositor...t=121593&page=1 (http://www.nitpickers.com/movies/repository.cgi?pg=t&sp=i&tt=121593&page=1)

However most people don't notice them. It's the glaring, in your face plot hole that cannot be missed which detract from a movie. Something that requires no thought at all.. such as the ships being buried all around the world in WotW, yet no one ever finding one.

I do like that explanation that they were buried very deep. Unfortunately, when the cops said there were no sewer lines etc. down there, it goes against that theory.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Mr.Bill on July 12, 2005, 10:08:30 AM
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As for the goofs in the movie, people with a lot of time on their hands have been discussing it endlessly on the IMDB.com forums. Here's an explanation I read:

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A) EMP affects devices that are working.
B) A change of battery would enable the video camera (and, yes there was a 35 mm camera AND a video camera)
C) The EMP (or whatever!) fried the starter and the solenoid. Ray tells the mechanic to change the solenoid before replacing the starter before he knows there has been an invasion...when he comes back, he, therefore realizes that that van is the only one in the area that will work.
Yeah, I'm working right now, thus all the posting. :p
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For the record, If I remember right the emp fries sends a huge electric pulse that kinda melts the wiring... and what kind of logic is, "It only effects the battery in the electric circut!"


but yeah, I still like the movie, it just kinda bugged me that they called it an EMP, where... if they called it something else, NO ONE could defy what they had said afterwards.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Malevolent on July 12, 2005, 11:11:30 AM
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As for the goofs in the movie, people with a lot of time on their hands have been discussing it endlessly on the IMDB.com forums. Here's an explanation I read:

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A) EMP affects devices that are working.
B) A change of battery would enable the video camera (and, yes there was a 35 mm camera AND a video camera)
C) The EMP (or whatever!) fried the starter and the solenoid. Ray tells the mechanic to change the solenoid before replacing the starter before he knows there has been an invasion...when he comes back, he, therefore realizes that that van is the only one in the area that will work.
Yeah, I'm working right now, thus all the posting. :p
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For the record, If I remember right the emp fries sends a huge electric pulse that kinda melts the wiring... and what kind of logic is, "It only effects the battery in the electric circut!"


but yeah, I still like the movie, it just kinda bugged me that they called it an EMP, where... if they called it something else, NO ONE could defy what they had said afterwards.
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Noes, Bill. No more closure.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Dubbilex on July 12, 2005, 02:28:35 PM
Way I figure, it was a movie.  If you wanted realism, then you would have paid ten bucks to see Tom Cruise be an asshole for twenty minutes before he gets vaporized by a giant machine. THE END. HAVE AN AWESOME DAY.

Trust me - it's seriously better this way.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Mr.Bill on July 12, 2005, 02:51:23 PM
hahahaha Dubb DOES have a point, Ill be good with that. :-D
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: EmperorPenguin on July 12, 2005, 10:53:21 PM
I agree some of it seems silly, but I just chalked it up to having its roots in a hundred-year old science fiction story.  It can be hard to stay true to original material while making allowances for how completely different things are today.  I think the original book bears another read, to see what was original and what was new.

I will admit I rolled my eyes when they tell you the tripods have been buried for thousands of years or whatever... but then I got over it.
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Goldy on July 13, 2005, 07:19:40 AM
Really, it's easy to get past the underground thing, when it allows for that mind-blowing emergence-from-the-street scene. That was so cool.  :lol:
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Rath on July 14, 2005, 02:52:50 PM
Ummm if I remember right it was just the news people calling the emp "Emp." not a scientist or anything.  Now if you take in the time it took between the "lightning" and the machines coming up from the ground, there wouldnt be much time for the news people or anyone else to look into this and see it wasnt actually emp.

And the machines being buried deep makes sense of course, but I think that the one guy said there was nothing down there because he was confused what was making the noise.  Maybe he at first thought a sewer line broke or a water main.  He had been there for what.. 5 minutes thinking about it?
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Black Mage on July 14, 2005, 06:52:28 PM
imagine what ebola would do to those bloodvines
Title: War of the Worlds
Post by: Manta on July 15, 2005, 09:22:01 PM
In case nobody has mentioned it in this thread yet: tentacles.