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The Ready Room => General => Topic started by: aeroripper on June 23, 2005, 01:24:21 AM

Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: aeroripper on June 23, 2005, 01:24:21 AM: LM was empty so i figured i would try comming a large 32 player game on SC Hamptons #1. So the map was tanith and i kept letting everybody know that we were relocated to west access outside waste. Then i used waypoints to walk them each step of the way to the spot and kept informing them where we were going.

So what happens? Only 7-8 people head there following waypoints and the other
1\2 or more of the team just goes wandering all across the map. I had guys wandering over to sat, chem, acidic, NONE of them even trying to stop for res along the way (at least make themselves useful if they wander off right?)

Anyways, long story short, we get 2 IPs up in west with a armoy and just get slaughtered all over the map quickly and then people start screaming "BAD COMM!" ... "GOOD COMMING COMMANDER!" etc etc...

It would have worked great had everybody gone to the waypoints i was guiding them to, but with that many players it just seems like everybody just goes and does whatever they want and then blame the commander when everything falls apart.

That's it just wanted to spread my disgust of some of the players that play NS especially in the larger pub games.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: mhawk on June 23, 2005, 09:31:22 AM: The key to comming large games is to not trust your team. Find the 3-4 people you know will listen then have them run in a group building everything. elec, and 2 hives locks work really well, because if your team is this disorganized imagine how bad the aliens are, with slow res and such. I've never seen a large pub alien team rush with more than 5 aliens out of a team of 15-16. If 16 skulks rushed at once the game would be over pretty fast.

edit- I've also seen comms beacon ever 30 seconds until everyone runs together.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: 2_of_8 on June 23, 2005, 09:47:46 AM: Quote
I've also seen comms beacon ever 30 seconds until everyone runs together.
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Yep. I've done this serveral times on NSArmsLab (25 slot one, not 16 slot vets)... used about 60-75 res on the beacons, but I got everyone to walk to my waypoint! They all died at it, but at least they died together :D
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Asal on June 23, 2005, 10:02:20 AM: ....there are servers other than LM?
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: holy_devil on June 23, 2005, 11:23:26 AM: Quote
....there are servers other than LM?
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you saw nothing. there is only lm.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Diablus on June 23, 2005, 12:34:29 PM: too bad LM is empty 95% of the time I go check to play at times of morning, noon and NIGHT <_<
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: [JFF]Kirby on June 23, 2005, 12:47:14 PM: Quote
too bad LM is empty 95% of the time I go check to play at times of morning, noon and NIGHT <_<
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Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Niteowl on June 23, 2005, 03:11:27 PM: Let's not bash other servers ok? One bad game does not a bad server make. Just say "i was in a large server once". And yes, pub marines sometimes don't follow orders.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: SwiftSpear on June 23, 2005, 06:19:02 PM: Large servers have no swear penalties or filters for a reason... May the rage be with you.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Mr.Ben on June 24, 2005, 05:31:15 AM: A few things:
1) Why the **** are you relocating to WAC?
2) On a full 32 player you ahve 16 players on your team, are you saying you need 15 people to pull off a relocate? Jeez, if all 15 people go there then you get 0 map control. In a 32 player the alien team can 8 fades for ****s sake, how the **** are you planning on winning with a relocate to an isolated corridor offering you 1 rt and no map control, as well as not letting your marines spread out early game.
3) I laughed hard it was so stupid.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Asurada on June 24, 2005, 08:26:35 AM: just don't comm.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: ebnar on June 24, 2005, 09:27:39 AM: why are you making these threads
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: UKchaos on June 24, 2005, 09:41:53 AM: To vent his flustrations i guess.

Personally i just cry into a pillow.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Niteowl on June 24, 2005, 10:28:32 AM: Quote
A few things:
1) Why the **** are you relocating to WAC?
2) On a full 32 player you ahve 16 players on your team, are you saying you need 15 people to pull off a relocate? Jeez, if all 15 people go there then you get 0 map control. In a 32 player the alien team can 8 fades for ****s sake, how the **** are you planning on winning with a relocate to an isolated corridor offering you 1 rt and no map control, as well as not letting your marines spread out early game.
3) I laughed hard it was so stupid.
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More tact, please.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: aeroripper on June 24, 2005, 11:07:23 AM: Quote
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A few things:
1) Why the **** are you relocating to WAC?
2) On a full 32 player you ahve 16 players on your team, are you saying you need 15 people to pull off a relocate? Jeez, if all 15 people go there then you get 0 map control. In a 32 player the alien team can 8 fades for ****s sake, how the **** are you planning on winning with a relocate to an isolated corridor offering you 1 rt and no map control, as well as not letting your marines spread out early game.
3) I laughed hard it was so stupid.

Its not really one 1 RT since waste and double are just a small ways away its actually pretty conveinent. And generally you can hold the whole left side of the map with a relocate there.

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why are you making these threads

Cause i felt like it, if admins have problems with me posting stuff like this then i'll stop. If you don't like it nobody's forcing you to reply to it, simple as that.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: ebnar on June 24, 2005, 11:19:08 AM: I'm just venting my frustration
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: LowCrawler on June 24, 2005, 12:11:59 PM: its a silly thread, yeah... but its not that big of a deal.

let's drop it
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: mhawk on June 24, 2005, 11:31:26 PM: I personally like aero's posts, it lets me say something so it almost seems like i have a clue what im talking about. =)
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: TheAdj on July 03, 2005, 07:29:34 PM: You make it seem like people on LM are perfect marines that do exactly what you want them to do.

I'd be pissed off if the entire team went to one spot, that's poor map control, especially with THAT many people. The more of the map you cover, you more you can strangle alien resources, which is critical on a larger server. The only time the entire team should be together is when they're defending a critical location or attacking a critical location.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Necrosis on July 04, 2005, 01:04:35 PM: Thats true, certainly whenever I manage to get in the chair the only time the whole team is in one spot is when we're toasting a hive.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Meatshield on July 24, 2005, 07:45:03 PM: 78 people for a relocate is more than enough. The other people were probably running to important places like Cargo so aliens can't secure the area. They did the right thing. Maybe 2 could've capped double on the way, and one cap acidic or something.

And yeah, reloc is West access is not a good idea imo. You're not in a better position than before (very easily gassed, no more beacon), and you still don't directly control a hive. IT's also very, VERY far from eveyrthing else.

The only worthwhile reloc in Tanith in Cargo or maybe Chem transport.
Title: How i LOATHE large pub servers
Post by: Clashen on July 25, 2005, 04:25:36 PM: 77 is really enough.