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The Ready Room => General => Topic started by: Niteowl on January 21, 2005, 11:33:31 AM

Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Niteowl on January 21, 2005, 11:33:31 AM: Vote!
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Necrosis on January 21, 2005, 01:24:09 PM: I chose option 3 but under the corollary that its a fun and challenging period of time.

40 minutes of "locking aliens into last hive then knife rushing" is tedious. 1 hr or more of back-and-forth war over vital rts leaves me feeling very satisfied indeed.

After many long years of gaming (Pong, Combat, Star Control, C&C, HL, Quake, AvP, Godzilla: Save the Earth) the act of winning doesn't have the same thrill anymore. Its the CHALLENGE. Win or lose, if I had a gruelling and tense hour of warfare then I'm going to feel a lot better than a 1 minute shotgun rush win.

Its something you come to appreciate with age. Game win screens all tend to blend together.
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Post by: Mr.Bill on January 21, 2005, 02:28:31 PM: 15 usual are games that 1 team plows through the other, not fun for anyone

20 min is when the plowing teams stalls

30-40 min is when the plowing teams switchs sides

hour game is when your fighting tooth and nail (where have I seen that before? kekeke) for territory, when you know boths teams played it hardcore.

hour games are win for sure.
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Post by: holy_devil on January 21, 2005, 02:48:00 PM: voted for epic. only time i've ever had fun is in really long games, where both sides push back and forth. so much fun =]

best game i remember comming was this hour+ long game on bast, we'd push, aliens push back. we finally took down so many hives that they were basically spent on res, and sieged out feedwater to win iirc :x
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Post by: lolfighter on January 21, 2005, 02:51:42 PM: I'm kinda torn back and forth between 3 and 4, eventually voting for 3. I want the epic feel of hour long games, but preferrably not the length. Pretty much what Necrosis said. But if games have to be long to give back that epic feel, then so be it. I'd rather have games that are too long than games that are too lopsided.
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Post by: SwiftSpear on January 21, 2005, 03:30:43 PM: I voted for 2.

Don't get me wrong, the epic games are where its at, but I don't think it's worth it to try to make every game an epic. Part of what is so good about NS right now is that when the epic games come along, my god are they ever sweet.
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Post by: Venmoch on January 21, 2005, 06:52:43 PM: I dunno.

I always hated hour long games because they never really seemed that fun. I always get bored of saving the same RT or Hive Room or choke point for the upteenth time.

On the other hand I don't like the short games where one team is left going "WTH?" what just happened?

I like mine to be of 20-30 minute length with epic battles. Not epic pushfights until one side stalls, falls over and then get trampled. Which always happens in the hour long games.

"OK Heavy Armour team, uh 19, go and get that hive! again!"

What I want is those games where the two army meet and it all hangs in the balance. Which never happen in the hour long "epic" games because usually, the teams are so well built up that there never is an "In the balance" section where the actions of a squad depend on the outcome. Rather then who can fling the most hardcore stuff at each other before running out of Res.

Hopefully that made sense....
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Niteowl on January 22, 2005, 04:30:38 AM: Ok, i'm a total nub, i think the goal for the dev team is a 30 minute game. I prefer them a touch longer, and preferably epic.

This is of COURSE assuming that the longer game has stuff HAPPENING, not stalling and boring long drawn out arriving at a foregone conclusion decided 20 minutes ago.
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Post by: lolfighter on January 22, 2005, 07:10:03 AM: Is there a particular reason for this?
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Post by: Mr.Bill on January 22, 2005, 08:51:39 AM: Epic, long games mean you played against a good team, and you might of won (or held out long enough type o deal if you lost). Shorter games just means the other team owned you, or you guys screwed up.

Both teams win in epic battles.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Dark on January 22, 2005, 09:49:32 AM: personally i'm kinda inbetween the 20 to whatever time things
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on January 22, 2005, 11:16:49 AM: I like my NS baked with a honey glaze and served on top of ice cream soup...

oh, wait...

I mean epic >_>
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Dubbilex on January 22, 2005, 11:54:34 AM: Those true epic games, those two-hour-long Bast stalemates, are without a doubt my favorite.

Games like this have given my my best memories.
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Post by: Necrosis on January 22, 2005, 12:30:44 PM: Win or lose, you'll always walk away with a few war stories.
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Post by: 2_of_8 on January 22, 2005, 12:33:22 PM: Quote
Those true epic games, those two-hour-long Bast stalemates, are without a doubt my favorite.

Games like this have given my my best memories.
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Same.

No-one's going to remember a quick win with a shotty rush, or a simple siege with heavies. What people WILL remember are situations which don't happen often - such as, amazing comebacks, or non-stop back-and-forth map control, and such.
I still remember one of the first few games that I've played in NS, 3 hours long, on ns_nothing. Constant back-and-forth; we ended up winning in the end. At one point, the aliums were down to 1 gorge and a hive going up, and the Marines at one point had 2 heavies with no base, just a CC to build in a hive.
That was a great game.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Niteowl on January 22, 2005, 12:54:58 PM: Quote
Is there a particular reason for this?
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Just simple curiousity. One often reads war stories about epic battles, and gets the general sense that most NS players like the longer game, yet the dev team seems to be moving towards an ideal time frame, something shorter, something more palatable to the common gamer (i'm guessing).
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Necrosis on January 23, 2005, 11:23:04 AM: Well I love my NS as I love most team objective games.

Don't get me wrong - I love short, fast, dirty team arena deathmatch style games. I have lots of run rampaging around with my GL/Bio-rifle/Goo Gun/Quad Launcher and laying waste to assorted random gamers.

However, when I play objective team games, I like them big and sprawling. Galactic Conquest for BF1942 - Epic games, moreso with the imminent new release with AT ATs. NS is an objective game for me, so I like long games with a bit of fight and story in them.

Which is why I drop the server when CO is selected - Its played too much like a team arena DM, and thats not what I signed on for.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: That Annoying Kid on January 23, 2005, 12:09:38 PM: epic battles where the balance of power *shifts* and most of the team works together are <3
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Post by: Crispy on January 23, 2005, 03:23:35 PM: Quote
Those true epic games, those two-hour-long Bast stalemates, are without a doubt my favorite.

Games like this have given my my best memories.
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Post by: Diablus on January 23, 2005, 04:29:47 PM: epic battles make NS worthwhile.
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Post by: Bait-Boy on January 23, 2005, 04:41:51 PM: Epic ^_^

I really miss those hour long games... v_v
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: devicenull on January 24, 2005, 09:42:21 AM: I miss the 6 hr long games of 1.04. Those were fun. It wasn't the marines camping outside the hive, it was an intense struggle between both teams, which is what made it fun. 6hr games were nice, you would have pretty much both teams composed of mostly new players by the end. Hell, you could even leave for awhile, come back and find the same game going on. You just don't see that anymore.. I miss it.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Clashen on January 24, 2005, 10:03:49 AM: 10-30min, depends if its pcw or public.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: 2_of_8 on January 24, 2005, 10:49:09 AM: Quote
I miss the 6 hr long games of 1.04. Those were fun. It wasn't the marines camping outside the hive, it was an intense struggle between both teams, which is what made it fun. 6hr games were nice, you would have pretty much both teams composed of mostly new players by the end. Hell, you could even leave for awhile, come back and find the same game going on. You just don't see that anymore.. I miss it.
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I've only seen one game longer than 4 hours since b5. It was on a small French server, and it wasn't even a real "epic" game; there were about 4 players on (all of which knew each other). They were AFK here and there, and turret farms were the main reason for the longetivity of the game.

The last "epic" game I had - more than 2 hours - was on ns_nothing, back in 2.0, one of them versions. It wasn't constant turret farming, but non-stop back and forth action. I'm not looking to have that all the time, but I would love to have that here and there. I don't like 10 min games; 20 games are what occurs all the time, unfortunately. It's usually the same thing if Marines win: Marines get lots of res -> Aliens manage to get 2nd hive up -> Marines take out 1st or 2nd hive -> Aliens get a fade or two, maybe advance back on Marines -> Marines have enough res for heavy train, march to last hive, destroy it.
What I'm looking for it is 30-40 minute games. It should not be possible to tell who's going to win a game within 10 minutes.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: GrayDuck on January 24, 2005, 11:31:54 AM: if the game is longer than 30 min. I usually lose interest. By that point some team is typically losing, just very verrrrry slowly - and I loathe long endgames, when it takes aliums 10 min to take out rine base or ha/hmgs 10 min to take out the final hive. HATE HATE HATE. So if the games could be longer without necessarely having that I'd be all for it.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: A Boojum Snark on January 24, 2005, 12:11:48 PM: That is the way they used to be ducky. Long, but not drug out. Most people don't understand that when people talk of the old long games, they simply think of a long game in current version terms.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: devicenull on January 24, 2005, 03:52:07 PM: Yea, a long game filled with action, like the marines taking a hive, aliens retaking it... is fun.
Marines taking forever to finish a game is not.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Vinegar Ninja on January 24, 2005, 04:33:06 PM: classic games of 1.04....
me as vingorge
ayatollah as ayacom
monkeyman and mr.miku as the loyal ninjaskulks
nubs as various marine and alien roles.
MASSIVE battles raging everywhere with everyone ensued. One gorge holding off 4 GLs while valliantly defending his last hive. Laughing as the com realizes the only way to beat the gorge is to siege him to kingdom come.
20 siege cannons commense.
good fugging times for everyone.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Wolfwood on January 24, 2005, 09:06:01 PM: My first game of NS after a long break from playing was an epic game. That made me happy :D
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Post by: Iconoclast on January 25, 2005, 06:40:11 AM: Short and sweet, about 20 minutes long is the ideal time I like play under.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Mr.Ben on January 25, 2005, 07:24:51 AM: I suspect 1.04 games would end much faster now with the knowledge people possess about gameplay and such.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: JohnTheGarbageman on January 25, 2005, 08:50:01 AM: I like my games like my sex. We just met, it all goes down really fast, and the next thing you hear is a shocked "What, that was IT ?".
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Post by: Malevolent on January 25, 2005, 10:29:10 AM: ^^^
Haha. John wins for the best description.
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Post by: Kodiac on January 25, 2005, 01:32:36 PM: I remember JohnJacob's tale of an ns game.....first one he ever told me about, i think...

FOUR HOURS- I CANT EVEN SIT STILL THAT LONG!

4 hours of Epic NS, egads......cant possibly think of how the comm must have felt after that....

Epic > anything
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Azazeal on January 30, 2005, 12:14:53 PM: Im gunna hafta say Longer - Epic, To me theres nothing like a Even match agianst marines and aliens where the more cunning barely make it up on top, to me thats the best ns game ill ever play >:D
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Post by: X-S-Z on January 30, 2005, 12:53:10 PM: Epic games, knock down drag-em-out blood sweat and tears kind of epic games.
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Post by: TheAdj on January 31, 2005, 03:19:01 PM: 30-45 minutes of nonstop action is the most I can take and continue playing. If I have to go all-out for over an hour, I'm usually done for the day (I'm sure some of you have seen crazy lerk-fests for an hour in the same game, it's physically tiring).
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Niteowl on February 01, 2005, 09:40:07 AM: Yeah, if I" m in the chair, and it's a tooth and nail fight, back and forth, 40 mins is when I"m really wearing down. at around 50 minutes I'm seriously considering just quitting because I'm so tired.
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Owen on February 01, 2005, 11:46:26 AM: why even ask... Epic.

It's always been a love of mine to make a game last for ages, I love it. I used to love being in standoffs, for about 20 minutes at a time it was HA vs Fade until either side gave, then there was a push forward, and then another standoff.
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Post by: Mr.Bill on February 01, 2005, 05:27:05 PM: tooth and nail games are what made me what my forum message says I am today!
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: LowCrawler on February 01, 2005, 07:13:21 PM: My favorites are the long ones... especially when Bill makes a speech and I make the team win.

Bill tell us that story again please?
Title: How do you like yer NS?
Post by: Necrosis on February 02, 2005, 03:14:30 PM: Bill: Good morning. In less than an hour, noobs from here will join others from around the map. And you will be launching the largest shotgun rush in the history of Noobs.

Noob -- that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common reswhoring.

Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July; and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from vets, clanners, or smacktards -- but from annihilation.

We're fighting for our right to spawn, to exist.

And should we win the map, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when LM declared in one voice:

"We will not relocate quietly into the night.
We will not vanish without a turret farm.
We're going to spawn on.
We're going to survive!!"

Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!

Or do you mean the other one

Bill: Sons of LM, I am Mr Bill.

NSplayer: OGM dewd, Mr Bill is, like, a million feet tall.

Bill: Yes, I've heard. Kills noobs by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the Consties with fireballs from his eyes........ and bolts of lightning from his arse. I AM MR BILL, and I see before me an army of my nsplayers here in defiance of HD. You have come to fight as noobs, and noobs you are. What would you do without freedom? Will you fight?

LM_NUBBLE: Fight against Adj and HD? No, we will hide in CCs, and we will live.

Bill: Ay, fight and you WILL die, run... and you'll live....... At least til they get SOF. And dying in your CCs many minutes from now, would you be willing to trade all the seconds from this second to that for one chance, JUST ONE CHANCE to come back here and tell our enemies that THEY MAY TAKE OUR IP.... BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE.... OUUURRRRRR FRRRRREEEEEDOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!

ONWARD THE BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember how that one ended too.

They had Bill inside a cage of SC and DC, and he was private chatting with Adj on irc.

TheAdj: The prisoner wishes to say a word.
Bill: REEEEEEEEELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTE!!!!
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Post by: Niteowl on February 02, 2005, 03:57:37 PM: nice!
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Post by: LowCrawler on February 02, 2005, 07:46:35 PM: Neither of these are what I'm thinking of... cmon it was the game that I won. I was alium cornmnado and i totally won the game and i should be held aloft upon the bosom of something holy (not HD) and showered with kisses from virgins and egg nog.

AHHH fantasies....
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Post by: lolfighter on February 03, 2005, 07:16:42 AM: I never knew Necrosis had a talent for writing as well...
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on February 03, 2005, 08:25:55 AM: He didn't really write all that, it is modified quotes from movies :p

First one is from Independence Day, second one... I can't quite place but I recognize the "they'll never take our freedom" part and the couple lines before it.
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Post by: X-S-Z on February 03, 2005, 08:38:37 AM: Braveheart and ID4, mixed with a little NS and a pinch of Bill. Bake at 350 for an hour and serve with Necrosis for the win. :lol:
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on February 03, 2005, 10:05:27 AM: Ah yes, Braveheart... I knew it was horribly familiar.
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Post by: Necrosis on February 03, 2005, 12:02:10 PM: Sheer rampant movie nostalgia.

It was that or the speech from Alien 3.
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Post by: Mr.Bill on February 03, 2005, 01:57:50 PM: "Men, It is the hour of hours, It is our time! what we do within the next couple of minuts will decide the fate of our galaxie. If you fight bravely, and smart I guarantee you will we destroy our enemies. "

Something along those lines, I think I forget a bit more every time I try to remember it :-D
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Post by: lolfighter on February 03, 2005, 02:18:24 PM: Quote
He didn't really write all that, it is modified quotes from movies :p

First one is from Independence Day, second one... I can't quite place but I recognize the "they'll never take our freedom" part and the couple lines before it.
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I knew that, silly. :p
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Post by: Necrosis on February 04, 2005, 11:38:48 AM: What about that one time Bill led a hopeless JP rush out of our besieged base.

What was it he said,

"Foul deeds awake! Now for wrath! Now for ruin! And the red dawn!"

Yeah, we won that one actually. HD came in from the east with his flashlight on.
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Post by: Niteowl on February 04, 2005, 02:50:53 PM: Quote
What about that one time Bill led a hopeless JP rush out of our besieged base.

What was it he said,

"Foul deeds awake! Now for wrath! Now for ruin! And the red dawn!"

Yeah, we won that one actually. HD came in from the east with his flashlight on.
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Ah, but were you looking to the east?
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Post by: ebnar on February 04, 2005, 03:19:26 PM: you people are mad. where would you get the time and energy to play a game of that length
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Post by: Necrosis on February 04, 2005, 04:07:38 PM: Ebnar, there is a chemical in this world known as "sugar". It is the source of all power.

Quote
Me:....... HD came in from the east with his flashlight on.

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Nite:...... Ah, but were you looking to the east?
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Post by: lolfighter on February 05, 2005, 04:45:14 AM: And cafffffffffeine. Sweet caffffffff.

*twitch*
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Post by: Malevolent on February 05, 2005, 11:00:10 AM: Yeah, I don't like NS....I mean I like long games. ^_^

Actually, I don't like long games because it gets boring even if you are winning. 30 minutes at the most.
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Post by: Uranium - 235 on February 20, 2005, 02:31:41 PM: I like the stacking of the results :) Nice trend.

Epic is the way to go. Who :Ding remembers that time you started as a skulk, went fade, killed marines, and won? Pssht.

I still remember my best Epics, they were what originally got me into NS. This is also why I liked Beta 1 Combat the best, since Combat was basically an Epic-In-A-Box.
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Post by: generalredwolf on February 20, 2005, 03:25:53 PM: hmmm about 30 min if they don't stall. other then that, um hi!
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Post by: SlickWill on February 20, 2005, 08:06:14 PM: Honestly, epic isn't truly epic, just slow death usually. That said, I think the 30-40 minute would be the best seeing as how they would probaly have a few epics sprinkled in there.

On a more important note, I love Mr. Bill. I think we should implant his seed into all the NSPLAYERs out there and seend them amoung the NS community to wreak havoc and joy and laughter and hilarity, but most of all, loses to all that oppose us. :p

Peace all.
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Post by: 2_of_8 on February 20, 2005, 08:48:05 PM: I am beginning to see more and more semi-epic games on LM, and I love it. I don't mean long drawn-out turret farms or no attempts at victory by any team; I mean constant back-and-forth action. It's great that these are beginning to be almost standard at LM - undoubtdetly, they are the most fun.
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Post by: duherman on February 21, 2005, 12:27:41 AM: I Chose 3, 2 is too less while 4 gets a little boring as they wage it out.