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The Ready Room => Off Topic => Topic started by: Leaderz0rz on January 08, 2005, 10:42:27 AM

Title: NS:S
Post by: Leaderz0rz on January 08, 2005, 10:42:27 AM

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So the next project is likely going to be NS on the Source engine. We don't know for sure if we're doing this, as we haven't had time to evaluate how much work it will be, but everyone on the team is excited to do it, so I think it will happen. We don't know yet if it is going to be a straight port over to Source, or if we're going to redo a lot of the artwork/animations, or if we're going to change a lot of the fundamental gameplay (flamethrowers, physics, etc.). We need to look into it more, see how many months it's going to take (the bad part) and then make a decision. As soon as we know, we'll let you guys know. NS on Source will be done primarily by the current NS team. I'll be doing the game design and overall direction, but the NS team will be doing all the actual work.

Title: NS:S
Post by: 2_of_8 on January 08, 2005, 10:54:11 AM

I really wouldn't want a straight port of NS to Source. Sure, it'd look good and all, but what I want are gameplay changes. Completely new gameplay is what I'm looking for: I mean - completely redone tech tree for both Aliens and Marines, bigger servers - 32 vs 32 or so, vehicles, outdoor maps, etc. Everything that is shunned on the NS forums because it's impossible on the current engine!

Title: NS:S
Post by: Isamil on January 08, 2005, 11:05:15 AM

No, its because most of the ideas suck and come from 9 year olds who want BIG BOMBS AND MISSLES OMG

Title: NS:S
Post by: Anarki3x6 on January 08, 2005, 11:25:14 AM

o_O i'd like ns ported SORTA like it is.. gameplay wise... but with better graphics on the source engine of course.. new models and textures and the like :)

Title: NS:S
Post by: Loke The Sleek Peruvian on January 08, 2005, 11:46:52 AM

I agree with Anarki in this one, but how would the Aliens counter vehicles? Bigger lifeforms?

Title: NS:S
Post by: SwiftSpear on January 08, 2005, 02:00:36 PM

In the I&S forums (which I can't quote at the moment being that the NS site isn't working for me) Zunni mentioned that he was guessing from things flay had said to him that B6 would probably be the last update to NS before all attention was diverted to a sourse port.

He was suggesting that they take the I&S forums down for the time being since constant NS development would have been essentially stopped until the sourse version came up.

Title: NS:S
Post by: duherman on January 08, 2005, 02:11:29 PM

Anything is possible on the Source Engine.

Title: NS:S
Post by: SwiftSpear on January 08, 2005, 02:14:46 PM

SALAD SIMULATOR: SOURSE!!!

Title: NS:S
Post by: Diablus on January 08, 2005, 05:43:01 PM

I think they should just port it over. I dont feel like waiting till my senior year in college to play NS on the Source Engine

Title: NS:S
Post by: Anarki3x6 on January 08, 2005, 06:54:37 PM

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I agree with Anarki in this one, but how would the Aliens counter vehicles? Bigger lifeforms?

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if they gave marines vehicles (tanks and buggies with guns on em and stuff like that i guess o_O) then aliens would prolly get like... uberonostanks™ or something...

Title: NS:S
Post by: A Boojum Snark on January 08, 2005, 07:33:18 PM

Well, they could take a different approach and rather than give the aliens a vehicle equivlent, give them anti-vehicle structures. Such speed bump thingys, tire spikes, and the like.

Title: NS:S
Post by: DruBo on January 08, 2005, 08:07:35 PM

Lerklift. And an upgrade to the the defensive abilities of Mr. Gorge.

Oh, and I'm sure vinegar splash and barf bomb would be re-worked to cause extra damage to vehicles.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Diablus on January 08, 2005, 08:17:02 PM

if the NS maps are basically the same size, unless theres some sort of overpowered mech with dual laser cannons and anti tank missles for Marines. I really doubt any viecles would be actually, fun to drive.

Title: NS:S
Post by: 2_of_8 on January 08, 2005, 10:20:47 PM

Guys. When I suggested vehicles and outdoor maps and such, I implied a total revamp of NS. Surely, vehicles aren't going to fit in present maps with present aliens.
Like they say, NS was battle, NS2 will be war. Or something like that.
Aliens should be adjusted to outdoor combat and open areas, more so than they are now. That way, you can have bigger maps, more players, more fun!
You cannot possibly change one thing drastically and expect everything to stay balanced. Either keep everything, or change everything. Latter option gets my vote! :)

Title: NS:S
Post by: duherman on January 08, 2005, 10:56:47 PM

Yeah anti-vehicle structures would work good. We wouldn't want this turning into halo now would we?

Title: NS:S
Post by: Leaderz0rz on January 09, 2005, 01:04:41 AM

i think ns is fine with close combat

Title: NS:S
Post by: Grimm on January 09, 2005, 01:47:08 AM

I'd prefer it remained close-combat because it makes more sense that way, but if they don't do anything to change gameplay (i.e. make marines not so powerful) I won't bother with it.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Mr.Bill on January 09, 2005, 09:42:44 AM

Considering, Im pretty sure they could manage BOTH if they really wanted to.

Mind you since they went it out probably before duke nukem forever, They'll just do a semi port to steam, THEN go on to changing it compleatly, other wise it'd be just too long to wait.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Malevolent on January 09, 2005, 11:00:52 AM

I would rather have a direct port to Source and maybe a couple of things added at the most because I don't feel like waiting a long time for them to add a bunch of things. Besides, they could make a basic port and add things later anyway.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Anarki3x6 on January 09, 2005, 11:46:04 AM

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if the NS maps are basically the same size, unless theres some sort of overpowered mech with dual laser cannons and anti tank missles for Marines. I really doubt any viecles would be actually, fun to drive.

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:o why wouldnt it be fun driving a mech and annihilating every alien in your path >:D

Title: NS:S
Post by: bacon_flaps on January 09, 2005, 12:41:03 PM

Yeah but then they'd have some kind of new and improved 30 seconds into the game fade whorage to make it so you hardly ever get the uber mech-o-doom.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Slink on January 09, 2005, 02:22:48 PM

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I agree with Anarki in this one, but how would the Aliens counter vehicles? Bigger lifeforms?

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You remember Captain Planet?  "By our powers combined..." and all that?


Imagine an Onos, with a fade gestating into PART OF the same lifeform.  With an acidrocket of doom times 1000.  And Blink.  And Stomp.  But it's one lifeform, until one decides to disengage from the other, and evolves out.  What do ya say?

Title: NS:S
Post by: Diablus on January 09, 2005, 02:26:57 PM

I say you are one crazy, crazy soul

Title: NS:S
Post by: Loke The Sleek Peruvian on January 09, 2005, 04:55:37 PM

To counter marine vehicles ,the Onos should be able to have a gorge build DCs, MCs or SCs on top of the Onos.like the Overlord Tank in C&C: Generals.

Then we would need an anti-vehicle lifeform like the Zerg Lurker, which could burrow and use underground spikes to flip Vehicles or  cause serious damage. That could be countered with Grenade launchers.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Mr.Bill on January 09, 2005, 07:33:49 PM

you know what? in ns:s we will FINNALLY be able to have the onos carry the hive away from a hive location! ftw

Title: NS:S
Post by: Loke The Sleek Peruvian on January 09, 2005, 07:42:38 PM

I thought a slug would do that, not the Onos.

Title: NS:S
Post by: Anarki3x6 on January 09, 2005, 10:38:52 PM

hell just copy starcraft and there you go, ns:s.