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Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Lightning Blue on July 14, 2004, 11:51:28 AM
The CS server is unused. I am going to pull it down later today.

If there is another Mod you would like to see The Lunixmonster host, post it here!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dubbilex on July 14, 2004, 11:53:32 AM
Err...Combat sounds nice :)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Black Mage on July 14, 2004, 11:54:45 AM
how about a mod of the week kind of thing?

just pick a random (preferably smaller / less popular) mod and put it on the box for about a week

if we can do something like that, i nominate bumper cars (http://www.planethalflife.com/bumpercars/) for the first week
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Post by: devicenull on July 14, 2004, 11:56:52 AM
RC2?

Science and Industry would be nice, but not many people play it (atm there are 3 s&i servers, with one player total)

Paraoxysm is one of the worst mods I've seen so far :/

Yea, but I'm going to go with RC2

Edit: If this went co_ only, would the other one be ns_ only? Please? (Its almost ns_ only now, but the occasional combat kinda annoys me)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: -Lancer- on July 14, 2004, 12:10:12 PM
i think it would be cool to put a passworded NS server that way we can have our own server+ when the server doesnt have enough ppl, the resers can just go play in the public server.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on July 14, 2004, 12:20:51 PM
I suggest a DoD server.

Lancer, i don't think that would do any good, seeing that we already have a RS system so regs can play. all it would do it split the players i think.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: sonic on July 14, 2004, 12:34:18 PM
RC2!!!!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 14, 2004, 12:52:27 PM
YARRRRRR pirates vikings knights?

Fun mod, and everyone loves pirates!


Hostile Intent - eh, basically CS gone "realistic", still in Beta stages i think (cause theres alot,  ALOT of bugs)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: devicenull on July 14, 2004, 01:07:51 PM
I'm going to say that a second ns server would be a bad idea.  Then it would eventaully turn into these people play on this server, and these other people play on the other server... split us all in half :(

RC2 or DoD sound good
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Lightning Blue on July 14, 2004, 01:31:45 PM
I've always been against a second NS server as well, I just had to toss the idea in.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 14, 2004, 01:36:24 PM
DoD might be fun. I've had a few decent games fooling around with it before. RC2... negative, unless there's a way to turn off the rocket launcher weapons. If so then very much yes. It's a great game with a lot of fun in it, but the stupid rocket launcher weapons, which are all proximity based, are just silly. You can seal off a whole area of the map just by spamming mines and turrets and junk all over the place. Of course, the exploding scientists and barneys are still cool...

I've played hostile intent a bit, and it's a lot of fun, but it is still awfully buggy, and not very widely played.

For fun mods that probably wouldn't last too long: Bumper Cars and snow wars are two classic favorites. We might also consider a zombie panic server... but probably only after the game gets out of playtest phase, which may still be a ways off.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Malevolent on July 14, 2004, 02:00:52 PM
Although a second server would be nice, it woud split up the community for awhile. But my main opinion is that no matter what happens, the server will eventually fail (just like the CS one did). People will eventually stop playing on it. If the CS (the most popular online game) server failed, how would another one last? But that could be due to the fact that it was passworded...

EDIT: Spelling.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 14, 2004, 02:07:07 PM
it's a given that no mod will hold our attention as long as NS. but it's nice to have it switch out every so once and a while and go on a gaming frenzy (HLRally, Sven, CS, whatever else we played on that).

i think dod would be great. dod public.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: CorvusX on July 14, 2004, 03:08:44 PM
DoD would be fun :)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 14, 2004, 03:23:56 PM
FIREARMS  omg omg omg omg i would die to play that mod with some LMers

please please please please please please please!!!!!!!!!


www.firearmsmod.com

current build is 2.9a

its a beautiful game, lots of real weapons no cheesey reload times its all real down to the broken legs and whatnot check it out...
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Vinegar Ninja on July 14, 2004, 04:02:05 PM
I miss my svencoop D:
when the new version comes out, we better have it somewhere!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Magmatron on July 14, 2004, 04:26:40 PM
I'd throw my vote in for a (non passed) DoD server.
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on July 14, 2004, 04:35:05 PM
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YARRRRRR pirates vikings knights?
/me agrees.

PVK for the win!
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 14, 2004, 04:40:14 PM
id like a DoD unpassworded server with res slots :)
or if that doesnt work then RC2
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Post by: X-S-Z on July 14, 2004, 04:56:43 PM
I vote for Firearms!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: fatty on July 14, 2004, 04:57:47 PM
i vote for Day of Defeat or a combat only server
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Grimm on July 14, 2004, 05:33:47 PM
I had a bad experience that's kind of kept me away from DoD; On a server with Statsme (I think, shows, when you die, how much damage you took to what location of your body, etc) where I was basically insta-killed by one shot in the left leg by a machine gun for 145 damage. There isn't much more than that that'll discourage me from playing a game.

It is unfortunate that not many people play Rocket Crowbar 2 or Science and Industry, as they are both very entertaining mods.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Satanic Monkey on July 14, 2004, 05:45:01 PM
If there was another server, I think either esf or tfc will be good.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Tombomb on July 14, 2004, 05:55:19 PM
I definatly vote for DOD it is the other game i play when iam not playing cs.  I love DOD if we made a server to that oooooo i would be on it maybe more then the ns one... maybe... if not DOD then yes Firearms is fun.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Mr.Bill on July 14, 2004, 06:04:00 PM
My first vote is for snow war, because I used to attempt mapping for them a long time ago good people,

second, will be numerous ones: opera, snarks wars surprise mod, scientist hunt

mods I just found fun but nobody ever played, sadly...


and firearms sounds good, havnt played that in forever
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: SuicidaL MonkeY on July 14, 2004, 06:36:10 PM
F..I..R..E..A..R..M..S... :D
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Asal on July 14, 2004, 06:43:11 PM
DOD, I say
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Grimm on July 14, 2004, 07:04:57 PM
A Lunixmonster TFC server would be very very cool, especially since I've always found TFC a well balanced and very entertaining experience (The fact that it's technically the first FPS that got me into gaming helps me enjoy it more). Also, I remember that some of us in IRC had the idea of getting a server up for The Specialist. That'd be pretty cool to have a place for all of us to stop talking smack and showing off our 'skills'.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Mr.Bill on July 14, 2004, 07:23:57 PM
Tfc, man those were the days... dont think you can go back though...
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Grimm on July 14, 2004, 07:38:43 PM
I can, and I do regularly. Usually after a bad game of NS (well, maybe I should say "terrible game of NS", since most games of NS are bad by default), I find a good TFC server for some wholesome, gameplay-balanced fun. You just can't put a good offensive medic down.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: sonic on July 14, 2004, 08:00:52 PM
Do you really want to play TFC against HD, do you? Cause i sure as hell dont want to.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Major Chrome on July 14, 2004, 08:05:51 PM
http://www.thetrenches.net/ (http://www.thetrenches.net/)

If the mod gets completed sometime soon I think it would be neat to try, if not DoD sounds pretty cool. I find TFC to be a tad annoying after a while, but entertaining nonetheless for a while.

And of course, S&I Rocks!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Isamil on July 14, 2004, 08:07:02 PM
I vote for a TFC server.  Need to check out HD's 1337 skills.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: holy_devil on July 14, 2004, 08:42:22 PM
science and industry ftw
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Black Mage on July 14, 2004, 08:47:54 PM
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it's a given that no mod will hold our attention as long as NS. but it's nice to have it switch out every so once and a while and go on a gaming frenzy (HLRally, Sven, CS, whatever else we played on that).

i think dod would be great. dod public.
read my post kplzthks
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 14, 2004, 08:48:58 PM
lb, is there going to be an actual vote or are you just going to decide based on the comments ? :)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 14, 2004, 09:11:27 PM
LM had a Science and Industry server a while back. It got taken down since no one played on it... Then we also had the sven server, and that only goes up when hunz is in the mood, as it has its own problems and tends to lag the NS server at times. Then we had the HLRally server briefly, but that got old fast and I think LB wasn't fond of the game. Then we had yon CS server, which sits empty as I type this and probably hasn't been used all day, maybe for a few days.

This is the brief history of the non-ns LM servers that I know of.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Legionnaired on July 14, 2004, 09:18:23 PM
TFC, TS, S&I.
My prefs, in that order.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: X-S-Z on July 14, 2004, 09:28:06 PM
Perhaps we should have a poll? Or are there too many mods to list?
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Slink on July 14, 2004, 10:02:27 PM
Whatever mod the server ends up as, I'd say make it non-passworded.  probably res-slot.  I think that's why the CS server is unused.

As far as mods go, I'm not too particular, mainly because as a dialup player, i don't download mods much.  But here's my 25 cents anyway, kinda in order of preference.

Day of Defeat.  Gotta love cooking off nades.

Half-life.  Unmodded.  Yes, i'm talking plain old Half-life deathmatch.  Freaky, ehh?

The Battlegrounds.  Revolutionary war mod.  As in 1776...  It's got the whole 1 shot and 20 second reload thing goin for it.  Not sure if it's steam supported though, as i think it's dev community died and is now opensource.  Haven't checked it out in a while.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 14, 2004, 10:06:18 PM
Fireams is reloading pr0n. clear and simple. not that that's a bad thing. but if you've ever wanted to see VERY VERY DETAILED reloading, get this game. it's salivatiliscious.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: A Boojum Snark on July 14, 2004, 10:21:23 PM
At the time I posted TFC never even entered my mind but I would like that.
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Post by: Seth on July 14, 2004, 10:50:10 PM
firearms for the win.

owl your are right about the FA porn the models in that game are just beautiful, then the reloads are acutaly real, as in you safty the weapon, eject the mag instert new mag and cock the weapon then unsafty it.

but then you can get skills like Nomenclature that gives you a -25% reduction in reloading times and thats where the reall XXX pron is, that M4 and M14 nomenclature reloads are just enough to drive a man crazy model'ed so well and smooth.

I'll get a screen shot of the weapons selection screen so you have an idea what i'm talking about.

i'll explain the skills later, but the 2 coolest ones are Medic's and at lvl 2 you can call a medivac helicopter in to evacuate a wounded soldier, and there is artillery class that you can build mortars and drop markers and whatnot. oh and stealth skill that gives you optional silencers on M4 Mp5 Uzi and Beretta 92f plus a hit bonus to the knife.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: johnjacobjingle on July 14, 2004, 11:27:59 PM
errr, dod for the win i'm thinkin'.

huge fan of DoD, i say DoD, no password, though, cuz that's probably the biggest reason why no one's on the cs server(that and i don't know the ip :-P)
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Post by: Niteowl on July 14, 2004, 11:32:14 PM
if you like guns, FA :) but dod is good times too :) i'm split!

one of the animations that still sticks with me to this day is silencing your MP5 Navy.. *drool*
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Post by: Niteowl on July 14, 2004, 11:38:13 PM
added poll
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Post by: Leaderz0rz on July 15, 2004, 12:01:29 AM
i voted for ESF, no i don't like DBZ but the mod is fun with very little people, and its somthing different then the same ol. I am guessing the server will be locked, so thats why i voted ESF if its public I guess Dod,firearms,tfc etc wouldn't be bad
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Post by: Sancho on July 15, 2004, 02:56:10 AM
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YARRRRRR pirates vikings knights?
/me agrees.

PVK for the win!
Yay, now add your votes to the poll.

I voted PVK ... that mod is <3-tastic, but the one thing it lacks is a good community, which LM would provide.

I agree with Bob on RC2, damn rocket launcher :( ...  If the original RC works on steam, that wouldn't be so bad :D

In any event, I support the "mod of the week" idea.  Me, bob, and some other AHL players did this for a while.  It was VERY fun!  We must've tried 15+ mods before I showed them NS and we got hooked on it and destroyed our mod nights :(  From first-hand experience, its very fun and would keep the server real active(even when bad mods are played, usually people will give it a few days at least).
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Talesin on July 15, 2004, 03:55:45 AM
Personally, I'd rather see an HLRally server. :D The new version just came out (no more getting stuck on random bits of terrain!) and it's just as fun as before... a few of the cars have been tweaked, making it much more possible for a Mitsubishi EVO to keep up with a Foam Locust, if you pre-steer.

(For those who haven't played it before, HLRally is a rally racing mod for Half-Life, that pulls it off quite well, for using the HL engine.)
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Post by: Redford on July 15, 2004, 05:20:28 AM
May I reiterate: DoD is worse then CS, make a DoD server and it will end up like the CS server eventually.
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Post by: Seth on July 15, 2004, 05:33:48 AM
i couldnt agree more red, once again i'll point at FA its a quality mod not like CS or Dod lets face it people since Dod went retail it's turned into a hacker infested cs wannabe paradice.

FA FTW
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Post by: Lito on July 15, 2004, 06:12:44 AM
If ANYONE chooses ESP, they will die.

The battlegrounds is cool.  I used to play it.  But not as cool as FIERARMZ :D!
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Post by: Isamil on July 15, 2004, 06:38:23 AM
I'd like to change my vote to HLR, since they aparently fixed the bugs.(OMG TALESIN POSTED)
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Post by: Dubbilex on July 15, 2004, 07:54:17 AM
Yeah - we had a The Specialists server a few months back.  However, there were only a few of us that ever played on it, which was a durn shame.

I guess Day of Defeat would be groovy - firearms would be equally groovy.  Of course I'd like to see a sven server above all else, but that's out of the question for the time being.  That makes me sad.

Anywho, I invoke the fifth.  I'm not gonna TELL you what I voted for.  B)


ok fine.  I voted for day of defeat because I wanted to be popular.
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Post by: SgtFury on July 15, 2004, 08:14:55 AM
My vote would be for TFC...... It is possible to go back from it from NS, still lots of fun and the new teleporter for Engies is great, especially dropped onto the enemies roof on the Well Map  :D
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Post by: Keyser59 on July 15, 2004, 08:29:03 AM
I used to be a hardcore FireArms clanner back in the day, until 2.6 ruined it.  :(

I'd still be willing to load it up and give it another go.
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Post by: Mouse on July 15, 2004, 09:02:24 AM
Voted for DoD, but just about anything will be fine. Thought I would like to play some nice HLRally. I played FA in earily beta or 1.x. I didnt think it was all that great  o_O :ph34r:. What about setting up a Zombie server or is that to earily in development for LB's tastes?
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Tooky on July 15, 2004, 09:27:38 AM
I tried DoD on my comp, it runs terrible and i couldn't stand how badly it performed and it reminded me of CS.. (the pain!).  I'd like to check out firearms if I knew the system requirements and to check if it would run better than DoD did on my PC.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Lightning Blue on July 15, 2004, 10:14:03 AM
I'd be up for a totally unmodded-except-for-adminmod HLDM server.
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Post by: Niteowl on July 15, 2004, 10:52:06 AM
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I'd be up for a totally unmodded-except-for-adminmod HLDM server.
that's HL DM, not HL DMC right? DMC is the Quake remake, and HL DM is the one with laser guided MISSLES!!!

either is pretty darn fun.

btw, i'll prolly remake this poll with the mods that get the most votes, taking out the mods that only got one vote.
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 15, 2004, 11:07:10 AM
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May I reiterate: DoD is worse then CS, make a DoD server and it will end up like the CS server eventually.
what are you talking about ? i play dod almost every day and no way in  >:D is it worse than cs.
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Post by: -Lancer- on July 15, 2004, 11:45:20 AM
call me ol-fashioned but id love to get into tfc again
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Post by: Path on July 15, 2004, 11:52:09 AM
I voted Firearms, as I used to play it quite avidly. The incredible amount of bullets needed to kill someone, and the illogical gains provided by armor made me reconsider. I'd be willing to try it, TFC, or HLDM (which I've never played!). The Quake1 remake would be wonderful too.
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Post by: Dubbilex on July 15, 2004, 12:10:21 PM
*shrug*  I just found a pretty cool mod called "Ship" that seems like it might be worthy.

You can check out the website here. (http://www.theshiponline.com/)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 15, 2004, 12:43:59 PM
Pirates vs vikings vs knights FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


yea i vote for that mod ^^

and id only vote firearms if LB Disabled the Use of the spamas... i mean, *cough* famas. (aka the gun that owns everything)
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Post by: JHunz on July 15, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
I pretty much hate DoD.  I'm pretty much impartial otherwise
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Post by: johnjacobjingle on July 15, 2004, 01:09:17 PM
i pretty much love dod.  ns is my wife, dod is my...er..."friend" :-D
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Post by: Isamil on July 15, 2004, 01:09:27 PM
I don't want DOD, I've heard bad things about it.  TFC or HLRally for me.
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Post by: Tombomb on July 15, 2004, 01:09:46 PM
Not to be nubby but whats half those mods never seen them like sven and science and industry and rocketcrobar 2 .

plz explain to me what those mods are thank you .
(voted DOD... i love dod cant wait till the server is up)
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Post by: Satiagraha on July 15, 2004, 01:17:53 PM
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I don't want DOD, I've heard bad things about it.  TFC or HLRally for me.
I used to play DoD religiously, it was my game for half a year between CS and NS, Personally, I don't really want to play it anymore. It's not as fun/good as it used to be and the DoD community has really changed a lot, I don't like it.

I am fully behind a Firearms LM server. FA is fun and it'd be great to play with Lunixmonstertarians ^_^

I'd vote for an HLDM server second, pretty much DoD is at the bottom of my list
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Post by: Niteowl on July 15, 2004, 01:28:00 PM
HOT DAMN!! you should all look at that mod dub posted about, The Ship. TOTALLY unique gameplay, it hink it's VERY LMish!! think multiplayer Hitman meets The Sims meets Thief.


DAAAYYUUM!!!
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Post by: Tombomb on July 15, 2004, 01:29:10 PM
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HOT DAMN!! you should all look at that mod dub posted about, The Ship. TOTALLY unique gameplay, it hink it's VERY LMish!! think multiplayer Hitman meets The Sims meets Thief.


DAAAYYUUM!!!
REally? wow i wouldnt mind trying sumin new out.
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Post by: Satiagraha on July 15, 2004, 01:38:53 PM
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HOT DAMN!! you should all look at that mod dub posted about, The Ship. TOTALLY unique gameplay, it hink it's VERY LMish!! think multiplayer Hitman meets The Sims meets Thief.


DAAAYYUUM!!!
I can't seem to download the mod, their DL server seems to be down...
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Post by: johnjacobjingle on July 15, 2004, 01:45:28 PM
i'm fordced to agree with nightowl... certainly looks interesting!
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Post by: Tombomb on July 15, 2004, 02:01:25 PM
hmmm lets revote i would love to try this SHIP mode very much special with the LMers

(dling it as we speak)
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Post by: Doobie Dan on July 15, 2004, 02:18:07 PM
Well, if no pirates n vikin's, then I'll vote Ship too.
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Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 15, 2004, 02:18:24 PM
Yeah, just finished looking at the ship. I can think of about twenty mistakes right off that would totally ruin the gameplay, and I'd like to know how, or if, they managed to code the game correctly to make it play right. I'll be grabbing it as soon as I get home...
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Post by: Lito on July 15, 2004, 03:00:37 PM
I demand a revote on the Ship.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 15, 2004, 03:51:46 PM
it's gauche to 'demand' things lito! go back and play you're GO! :p

remaking vote, taking out the low votes, please RECAST YOUR VOTE!
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Post by: Mr.Ben on July 15, 2004, 04:06:50 PM
HLDM!
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Post by: Tombomb on July 15, 2004, 04:26:47 PM
i just finished playing the ship... its really addicting and fun i think it would be great for TLM
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Post by: Slink on July 15, 2004, 05:20:34 PM
Just looked at The Ship, sounds seXXXy...

Failing that, (doubt it, looking at the votecount) Imma change what i said earlier.  I'd go Vanilla Half-life, and then Firearms.

The Ship does indeed sound intruiging though.  Sorta like the old boardgame Clue, only with a healthy dose of skulduggery and violence.  Eeeeeeeee...
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Post by: Seth on July 15, 2004, 06:07:54 PM
what in gods name is The Ship? links please?

FA still holds my vote, i noticed Dod is dead in the water all you flip flop voters should be executed, FA WINS!
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Post by: Dubbilex on July 15, 2004, 06:40:32 PM
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what in gods name is The Ship? links please?

FA still holds my vote, i noticed Dod is dead in the water all you flip flop voters should be executed, FA WINS!
I already sent a link, silly.  As a matter of fact, I'm gonna make a thread for it right here and right now.  Because I'm just that much of a nice guy.
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Post by: Lito on July 15, 2004, 09:11:53 PM
Seeing how LB doesn't like the idea of putting up a server for The Ship, FIERARMZ!!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dark on July 15, 2004, 09:22:51 PM
sigh i was messing around on a listenserver for the ship and it seems like a good mod too

but well firearms will also get my vote
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 15, 2004, 10:35:00 PM
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Seeing how LB doesn't like the idea of putting up a server for The Ship, FIERARMZ!!
err, another poll reset is in order now :)
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Post by: johnjacobjingle on July 15, 2004, 11:19:44 PM
err?  LB says no?  i must be missing something or somat...or mabe i'm just noob and missed his post :-(
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Post by: Cartman2b on July 16, 2004, 01:54:14 AM
DOD.. it would be used more seeing as it has more players..

If i could vote twice, S&I.. new patch in a few weeks :)
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Post by: ThoraX on July 16, 2004, 02:41:36 AM
I feel many love for ship. I vote ship too. ship for the win!
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Post by: Redford on July 16, 2004, 05:22:46 AM
I really like firearms because the guns aren't "tiered" like in CS.  Each of the assult rifles has certain situations it excels at, and certain situations it's bad at.  Similarly, you can't beat a submachinegun for close combat (even though they have been toned down in recent versions).  So, what you end up with is people using guns based on their playstyle rather then how much they cost.  You can even run around using only a pistol and do pretty well if you are good with it.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Iconoclast on July 16, 2004, 07:00:06 AM
Yes. Firearms is a great mod, but there are certain balance issues still lingering around.

FA will get my vote, even if the famas is brokeass.
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Post by: BOZO on July 16, 2004, 07:30:33 AM
Oh god no,  not The Ship. It's just a "fad" mod,  it has no long lasting gameplay, belive me the server will be empty in two weeks. Why dont you try something with more lasting appeal like DoD or FA, at least those have a large enough player base to keep servers up.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 16, 2004, 08:14:26 AM
Well hasn't the ship only been public for all of a few days? It's rather early to be calling it a dying fad, it hasn't even had a chance to become a living one yet.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: ThoraX on July 16, 2004, 08:46:09 AM
if anyhting, just have a server up for those 2 weeks then. You can always switch over to firearms or something as soon as you deem it 'dead'.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Tooky on July 16, 2004, 09:00:35 AM
What exactly is 'the ships' about?
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 16, 2004, 12:04:22 PM
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What exactly is 'the ships' about?
giant ships that take over the world and turn humanity into their slaves.




well actually, its more like Clue, you dont know who to trust, whos a computer bot, and whos not, and who is that guy following you with a Briefcase!!!! OGM BEWM!!111
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 16, 2004, 02:40:37 PM
wow i checked the pole today and almost wet myself, firearms is winning!!! w00t

yes the famas is quite lame but its easy to counter it with some smooth sniper work, i've also owned quite a few famas players with a mp5 silencer is recomended.

besides its not a bad weapon i dont recomend you ban it, its been adjusted in the last update and seems to be balenced well now... the damage of a 5.56 plus the insane High ROF combined with its small magazine makes it balenced.

its not like the first 2.9 verson that had shotguns ignoring armor so you can kill a guy from 50feet out with one pellet, or the m16 and other 3 round burst weapons that multiplied their damage so it was something like 25+45+60 dmg for each of the bullets instead of the normal 25+35+40 it is now... ( of course all this depends on the armor and wear the bullets hit )


PS, whoever said that it takes huge amounts of bullets to kill someone couldnt be more wrong, yes the weapons will seem horribly inaccurate on full auto ( as they should be ) but use the different fire modes and they become god sends.
HeadShots are what your looking for, always.
save fullauto for those last ditch efforts of spray and pray goodness, and dont forget reload often, sometimes that extra bullet in the chamber will be the one that finds his head.
also note the ammo system is clip based, half used mags cycle to teh end of your mag list, using the "Combine ammo key" is a good idea if you have 2 or 3 mags that are half empty, it will combine them into proly 1 full and 1 almost full mags.


end of my tips for the day, wouldnt want you guys gettin to good off the start without me owning you all in the face with my m60  >:D
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 16, 2004, 03:19:39 PM
i suggest mr. i play FA all day and all night Seth here stick to knives and pistols only. for a few weeks. at least. or whichever weapon really bites.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 16, 2004, 04:15:52 PM
sure thing owly, i here by swear to use only pistols and knifes, because well they are actualy useful...

i could use some more practice in that department anyhow, seeing how stealth skill will give me a silencer on my beretta and about double damage on the knife.

and if you even think about sniping me, i'll just have to pull out the anaconda and scope you in the face .44 magnum style.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: SuicidaL MonkeY on July 16, 2004, 04:32:27 PM
you wouldnt get the chance with my m79 greeting you.. :p
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 16, 2004, 05:09:02 PM
ahh yes the m79 the only true weapon i dispise, gp25 and m203 arent bad choices either you get the rifle too. but you need to get artillery skill to use the grenade lounchers on the rifles... ie the m16 and ak74.



who do i have to molest to get the server up already...?
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 17, 2004, 01:02:04 AM
shouldnt poll get reset since the ship wont be put up ? *prods admins*
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Slink on July 17, 2004, 01:06:31 AM
speaking of which, i don't see "unmodded" half-life deathmatch there either...

 :)

maybe i'm just nuts though.  actually, probably...
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 17, 2004, 01:09:23 AM
i think it was in the first vote, but then got taken out cuz it only got voted once or not at all :p
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 17, 2004, 11:24:43 AM
I think we may need a third vote, without 'the ship'. I've heard that LB gave this his stamp of disapproval, and I'm betting a lot of people that voted for it are like me, it seemed cool, but on playing it a bit, the novelty is quickly wearing down. Or we could just put up an FA server and be done with it.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 18, 2004, 04:26:09 AM
^huccup.... excuse me...
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Kodiac on July 18, 2004, 09:03:51 AM
hope i haven't missed this....

I think fiirearms would be neat, i still havent tried it but from waht i've looked at it seems cool.  So yeah, thats my opinion, thanks for being nice and reading it.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Cheez on July 18, 2004, 10:14:29 AM
bah, i want sven co-op! FREE THE MEECIES!

but seeing as how you have some secret problem with sven, i'd vote either firearms or combat only, as those are the only two on the list i'd enjoy.

Hostile intent isn't a bod mod either if you look past the few bugs, they did finally get rid of the annoying spawn killing bug so it's a lot more enjoyable now.

(hell i liked the idea someone had to make a ut2k4 server, but i don't know if LB can even do that, too bad i'd have loved to see a LM alien swarm server :p)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Vinegar Ninja on July 18, 2004, 10:57:37 AM
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bah, i want sven co-op! FREE THE MEECIES!

but seeing as how you have some secret problem with sven, i'd vote either firearms or combat only, as those are the only two on the list i'd enjoy.

Hostile intent isn't a bod mod either if you look past the few bugs, they did finally get rid of the annoying spawn killing bug so it's a lot more enjoyable now.

(hell i liked the idea someone had to make a ut2k4 server, but i don't know if LB can even do that, too bad i'd have loved to see a LM alien swarm server :p)
yea sven caused massive lag and it crashed every 4 seconds...
its supposed to be fixed in their next update which looks DAMN sexy. AI is smarter than ever before, its crazy
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 18, 2004, 11:12:33 AM
new poll done.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Quaunaut on July 18, 2004, 01:31:45 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned "The Specialists"- and have it play ALL the maps, instead of just lobby or theater- I'm talking EVERY SINGLE MAP. PERIOD.


Edit: Forgot to make Specialists plural.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Tombomb on July 18, 2004, 02:36:44 PM
I suck at teh firearms.... i vote DOD cuz i owns at it ^_^... no seroiusly i cant play firearms for the life of me and i cant figure out how people own at that game its too hard to play.  i like DOD lots more its more fun.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Uranium - 235 on July 18, 2004, 02:44:25 PM
Voted FA - I played it long ago and got instagibbed 600 times in a row on some parachute map. I think. Hated it, but I like it a *LOT* better then DOD (GO ^^TY WW2 GAMES)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Uranium - 235 on July 18, 2004, 03:00:16 PM
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned "The Specialists"- and have it play ALL the maps, instead of just lobby or theater- I'm talking EVERY SINGLE MAP. PERIOD.


Edit: Forgot to make Specialists plural.
We used to, but no one played on it.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dubbilex on July 18, 2004, 03:05:05 PM
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned "The Specialists"- and have it play ALL the maps, instead of just lobby or theater- I'm talking EVERY SINGLE MAP. PERIOD.


Edit: Forgot to make Specialists plural.
We used to, but no one played on it.
I did :(
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Uranium - 235 on July 18, 2004, 03:05:23 PM
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned "The Specialists"- and have it play ALL the maps, instead of just lobby or theater- I'm talking EVERY SINGLE MAP. PERIOD.


Edit: Forgot to make Specialists plural.
We used to, but no one played on it.
I did :(
But no one likes you.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: devicenull on July 18, 2004, 04:03:05 PM
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bah, i want sven co-op! FREE THE MEECIES!

but seeing as how you have some secret problem with sven, i'd vote either firearms or combat only, as those are the only two on the list i'd enjoy.

Hostile intent isn't a bod mod either if you look past the few bugs, they did finally get rid of the annoying spawn killing bug so it's a lot more enjoyable now.

(hell i liked the idea someone had to make a ut2k4 server, but i don't know if LB can even do that, too bad i'd have loved to see a LM alien swarm server :p)
yea sven caused massive lag and it crashed every 4 seconds...
its supposed to be fixed in their next update which looks DAMN sexy. AI is smarter than ever before, its crazy
Actually its not that unstable.. I knew someone who ran a sven server.. maybe once a week it would go down.. but I think when it goes down it takes most of the box with it :/
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Quaunaut on July 18, 2004, 04:05:44 PM
LB knows Sven Co-Op well. He's a PT. He knows.

...only other mod I'd say is TFC- awesomeness. Especially with you cool folks. It'd be about as different as you could get, but still be cool.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Satiagraha on July 18, 2004, 05:15:43 PM
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Voted FA - I played it long ago and got instagibbed 600 times in a row on some parachute map. I think. Hated it, but I like it a *LOT* better then DOD (GO ^^TY WW2 GAMES)
That's because you kept falling out of the plane and not deploying your parachute...


GG "realism"
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 18, 2004, 06:29:38 PM
taking 20 bullets from a damn rifle to kill a enemy soldier is considered realism? or how about the unforgetable "running around in circles strafing and holding down your auto weapon hoping to put 10000 bullets into your enemy before he does to you"


gg realism to that! :ph34r:

so im still up for PvK ^^
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Isamil on July 18, 2004, 06:40:05 PM
Vote TFC today!
DoD is bad, offical news from U235!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: ANeM on July 18, 2004, 06:47:27 PM
Not sure what to vote for..
Wasn't "The Ship" previously an option? or am I delusional?
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 18, 2004, 06:58:39 PM
diablus i'm sorry you feel that way, but if that's what FA is to you then i can see your problem, it was the same for me when i first started playing FA...

you think it takes 100 bullets to kill someone but thats mostly because you cant aim for crap when spraying on fullauto+running

there is something like 10 different positions to fire a weapon from in FA and each has its own effect on recoil and spray... its up to you to find the best ones and use them at the right times.

i've killed 5 people in a row with a beretta 92f, thats the 15 shot mag one with a silencer. of course i had 16 rounds in the mag at that time due to a reload after killed 2 previous people, but i did kill 5 in one pistol clip.

mp5 i've killed about 4 in one clip, more if i go semi auto and snipe with it.

its all about aiming and movement penalties to recoil in this game

i'm not saying that running and going fullauto isnt a good idea, but only in the right situation. ie. indoors
you try and out on a street vs any noob with a rifle and he'll own you in the face before you can even get close enough to draw an outline of him in bullets.

beaware that running foward in a straight line will give you more accuracy then strafing left and right while running foward, strafing will move your shots either to the left or right of your target, like i said above, every movement you make affects your aim.
logic dictates, dont move at all if you want to hit something far away, and better yet, use semiauto for long shots and burst/auto for close in.


best advice i could give anyone new to FA is pick a config, either the default (which i dont like at all, you can change them by editing the .txt files) or select your own loadout and STICK WITH IT.

each weapon in FA is one of a kind and no 2 guns will behave the same, you just need to find one that fits your playing style and master it.
learning to use the different fire modes will turn you from noob to leet in about 10 seconds flat.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 18, 2004, 09:06:49 PM
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beaware that running foward in a straight line will give you more accuracy then strafing left and right while running foward, strafing will move your shots either to the left or right of your target, like i said above, every movement you make affects your aim.
logic dictates, dont move at all if you want to hit something far away, and better yet, use semiauto for long shots and burst/auto for close in.


You dont see my whole point.

Strafing sideways slows you down.

you get the "RUNNING IN CIRCLES" deal constantly because your shots ARE ACCURATE while running foward, thus everyone hlds down foward and runs around, causing everyone to try and follow eachother so they look like goddamn speed dogs chasing their tails.

As you can see i hate that game, but its not based on my opinion, its based on the communities, im only showing the "bad parts" of FA to mabye sway a vote before someone votes. The game can be fun at times, but I feel it gets way too repatitive.

For example, snipers tend to sit in 1 spot and always look for map exploits,

The running around in circles deal,

and what i especially hate is how the FAMAS is basically the greatest gun in game STILL (well up to 2.7 because i havent played any builds after 2.7)

It has amazing accuracy full auto, a EXTREME ROF so its a "o.k." spray and pray gun, and due to the really good accuracy and high ROF it can in fact. OUTGUN an M-16.

If not better its almost evenly matched up against a m-16

Now explain to me why they feel a FAMAS in Semi should even stand a CHANCE against a gun specifically MADE for semi/burst?

If they were looking for balance wise, it doesnt make sense since the FAMAS in the hands of someone with decent aim is highly deadly and mid, and close range, yet it also is quite good at taking snipe shots? :blink:

Now that my "spam" on FA is done, Make a topic in Off topic, and ill gladly post the "99 problems" with FA, but dont base your decision on my post because after all im only 1 person, and i hate the game as you can see.

So my vote still goes to PvK  ;)

To give the admins a favor this will be my last post here to reduce a whole argument on Firearms because i tend to go overboard when it comes to arguments on the game.  But if it does become a FA server, ill test it out. it mightve been the FA community in general that made me hate FA in a whole.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Keyser59 on July 18, 2004, 10:00:49 PM
lol Diablus, you should have seen the FAMAS in pre-2.6 builds. You could get 4 headshots in 10 shots at a distance of 50 meters. Now that was a whoregun  :D . For some reason people always whined about the AUG with its 41 round clip and scope, but the funny thing was that you didn't need a scope for the famas.

I haven't played it recently, but I just remember the AK-47 was the definitive whoregun of 2.6. I believe the mod team changed that though.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Satiagraha on July 18, 2004, 10:08:56 PM
Lol Diab

They De-Whored the FAMAS to some extent in 2.9. Not nearly as many people use it anymore, but it's still not a bad gun.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 18, 2004, 11:51:21 PM
yeah famas has not been nerf'ed, but other rifles have gotten a boost.

the 7.62mm variaty to be specific, in pre 2.7 the 7.62 rifles only did about 3/4 the damage they do now. ie the G3A3, M14, Ak47, Ak74, mind you the 47 is a slightly smaller round then the G3A3 and the 74 is even smaller but still they do more damage then the Famas so in a firefight with a famas vs AK, G3 or even a M14 the larger calibers quite often win now due to the boost in its damage.

you can break legs with a m14 and G3a3 they do the same damage as the M60.

famas is no longer whore'ed unless its aloud to be, every weapon has its counter.

also i still firmly believe that an m16 will beat a famas, given the m16 gunner can aim and gets a 3 round burst square in his chest... but the m16 gunner will walk away with less HP then would a AK ect.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Guspaz on July 19, 2004, 12:15:15 AM
DoD == Haet
TFC == FTW

Seriously though, I really do strongly dislike DoD... I'm an admin over at Kustom Kettles which started as a DoD community and then added NS due to a merger. I tried hopping on the DoD server, to try to have a bit of a presence there, but I really disliked the whole experience.

On the other hand, the mod I was playing before NS was TFC, and various TF based mods such as Q3F. I still like TFC to this day, and would LOVE for this to be the new server.

I missed out on the TFC RS night, as I miss out on many RS nights, because I can never remember them, and that was too bad... If we don't get a TFC server, we should have some more TFC RS nights, and this time I'll join in.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Redford on July 19, 2004, 03:00:50 AM
TFC allready has too many servers and is quickly losing it's playerbase, we'd never get anyone on it.  It's worth noting that about half TFC players are still on WON, which means they will be forced to migrate to steam by the end of the month.  DoD allready has thousands of servers, and thousands of players.  In addition, it suffers from having too few hardcore players in the LM community (like CS did).  PVK is an awesome mod, but is a pain to install into steam and needs bugfixing despratly which will never happen due to the team breaking up.  Firearms is in need of servers and players, and is a good mod that needs more attention IMO.  That's why my final vote is for Firearms.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Leaderz0rz on July 19, 2004, 04:38:25 AM
i just played like 5 hours of Firearms with Seth, was alot of fun, I use the m16 most the time m4 on close maps.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: That Annoying Kid on July 19, 2004, 05:09:15 AM
pvk is fun but it would be a flavor of the week

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OGM GOM GOM I JUST REMEBERED!


TRAINHUNTERS!  <3  :ph34r:

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Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on July 19, 2004, 07:34:36 AM
TAK, Runaway train owns Trainhunters, well iirc Trainhunters added some idiotic and imo lame weapons. Where Trainhunters was just nice :D.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Quaunaut on July 19, 2004, 07:36:08 AM
I'm sorry, but Firearms has to be one of the worst mods out there.

See, there are mods that don't FEEL like a mod- like NS, TS. Then there are mods that even though they do, their fun, like S&I.

THen there is Firearms. Not fun, not unique, and bad at the "Realism" their trying to achieve. More than anything, they go for "Ultra" realism(at least when I played), which isn't realism. Realism is someone taking 6 bullets in the generally same place in armor and dying. Someone taking 20 bullets in a spread out pattern and living(with armor of course). Realism is being able to jump over whatever the hell you need to. Realism is not getting hurt falling from 5 feet.

And I say again- Firearms isn't fun. I'd even go farther for FLF(Front Line Force) than Firearms.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 19, 2004, 08:24:26 AM
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Realism is not getting hurt falling from 5 feet.
 
really? i'd get hurt falling from 5 freaking feet.. :/ yer some kinda .. superhero or something!

(http://www.dfunbags.com/new%20site/funbagger%20pit/scrapbook/band%20costume%20page/Great_American_Hero_Scott.jpg)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Legionnaired on July 19, 2004, 09:39:35 AM
Legs are excellent shock absorbers. If you fall 5 feet, and lock your legs out before landing, of course you're going to break them. If you allow your legs to flex with the fall, if need be drop to a 3-point stance, there is no goddamn way you're going to snap one of your legs in half like what happens in Firearms.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Lightning Blue on July 19, 2004, 09:57:43 AM
I'm actually leaning towards HLDM for a while.

Simple to set up and run, and everyone likes some mindless fragging every once in a while right? ;)
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Quaunaut on July 19, 2004, 10:26:17 AM
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I'm actually leaning towards HLDM for a while.

Simple to set up and run, and everyone likes some mindless fragging every once in a while right? ;)
...thats actually a really good idea.
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Post by: Niteowl on July 19, 2004, 11:05:37 AM
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I'm actually leaning towards HLDM for a while.

Simple to set up and run, and everyone likes some mindless fragging every once in a while right? ;)
...thats actually a really good idea.
suck up!!  :D
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Tombomb on July 19, 2004, 11:30:53 AM
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I'm sorry, but Firearms has to be one of the worst mods out there.

See, there are mods that don't FEEL like a mod- like NS, TS. Then there are mods that even though they do, their fun, like S&I.

THen there is Firearms. Not fun, not unique, and bad at the "Realism" their trying to achieve. More than anything, they go for "Ultra" realism(at least when I played), which isn't realism. Realism is someone taking 6 bullets in the generally same place in armor and dying. Someone taking 20 bullets in a spread out pattern and living(with armor of course). Realism is being able to jump over whatever the hell you need to. Realism is not getting hurt falling from 5 feet.

And I say again- Firearms isn't fun. I'd even go farther for FLF(Front Line Force) than Firearms.
i hatez the firearms with passion too T_T :ph34r:
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Black Mage on July 19, 2004, 11:31:34 AM
if you want pointless fragging go get rc2 and i can (try) modify the anti-aw/m metamod  plug to be anti-rocket
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on July 19, 2004, 12:22:48 PM
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I'm actually leaning towards HLDM for a while.

Simple to set up and run, and everyone likes some mindless fragging every once in a while right? ;)
oh phew, anythings better than firearms  :D
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 19, 2004, 12:30:28 PM
considering you are wearing armor, legs arms and helmat optional.

and toting a rifle pistol and grenades a fall from 2 feet would break your legs.

there is no such thing going into a 3 point stance while falling carrying that much equipment, of course you can always toss your rifle on the ground then jump down to it but good luck having it work properly afterwords.



you just bad mouth FA because its not an easy mod, no one is a instant god, and its obvious that you suck at it.

as leaderzor pointed out we played about 5-6 hours yesterday was a hella time, we both managed to have a 30-10 score most of the times.
he was a medic some times and was fixing my broken legs, cuts and scrapes.

so what i'm saying is dont knock a game you never bothered to put any real time into, FA takes practice, there is a steep learning curve with the weapons but once you get the hang of it you shouldnt have much trouble killing people.

like i said before if it takes you a whole clip to kill someone then you cant aim for peanuts, leaderzor can vouch for this i've killed 4 or 5 guys infront of him with M4 and no markmenship skills by just using semiauto and taking heads off.

Learn the game, dont just critize it because your too stupid to put time into it.
you dont hear me bad mouthing the ship or whatever other crapy mod you are into.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: That Annoying Kid on July 19, 2004, 02:39:30 PM
where is the wub?


HLDM seems to be a decent idea
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Satiagraha on July 19, 2004, 02:58:50 PM
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I'm actually leaning towards HLDM for a while.

Simple to set up and run, and everyone likes some mindless fragging every once in a while right? ;)

Noes! :o  :(
Savezez teh stretedgy!


I agree with seth (although not his "deal-with-it" attitude v_v )

Firearms does take a little bit of practice until you see the best of it. When i first started, i though it was cheap and trying to be "too realistic". But now I see that it's not bad at all. It does try to be realistic (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) without taking from gameplay.  You really just have to learn to use the weapons and abilities in order to play well.

And yes, you'd get hurt from falling 5 feet with full armor, weaponry, and equipment (probably totaling 100+ lbs). There's a reason that it's called heavy armor...
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Niteowl on July 19, 2004, 03:04:34 PM
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you just bad mouth FA because its not an easy mod, no one is a instant god, and its obvious that you suck at it.

like i said before if it takes you a whole clip to kill someone then you cant aim for peanuts,

Learn the game, dont just critize it because your too stupid to put time into it.
you dont hear me bad mouthing the ship or whatever other crapy mod you are into.
keep the discussion to the mod, let's not get personal. warning level upped. at 100% warning Bad Things Happen™.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 19, 2004, 03:14:19 PM
i thought i kept its pretty nice acutaly, i didnt name any names i just use the word "you" as in refering to anyone.

didnt know taht was a big no no, duely noted.

just replace all the "you" to "sumdumguy"
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Uranium - 235 on July 19, 2004, 05:18:44 PM
Firearms -

1) Waaa you fall 5 feet and break a leg.

FLAT OUT NOT TRUE - I've fallen off rooftops. I've fallen off of boxes. I've jumped out of second story windows (backwards, while emptying a shotgun) and not suffered a broken leg. So you guys are either vastly exaggerating, or (and this is what I think) you guys really haven't played it and just recycle someone elses words.

Secondly, you can get a skill that eliminates broken legs for good. Why don't you take it if you hate them so much?

2) People just run around and shoot forward in circles.

Never seen this behavior, never

3) You can take more then 1 bullet and live!

Yeah - think about it? What are two skills - no, what are two skills and 17 equipment slots? Survival - You have 3 types of kevlar, and 3 types of subsidary armor. You have two levels of medic skills. If you died in one bullet a la CStrike (which seems to be what you all like), no one on earth would waste points on armor for legs or arms, or armor at all for that matter. I never did in CS - It cost too much and it barely did jack. Secondly, the medic skills (outside medevac) would be utterly WORTHLESS - Look at battlefield 1942. Everyone liked the medic because you could rambo with it - they didn't like it becuase you could heal players. You didn't. They all were *DEAD*.
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Post by: Quaunaut on July 19, 2004, 05:32:18 PM
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considering you are wearing armor, legs arms and helmat optional.

and toting a rifle pistol and grenades a fall from 2 feet would break your legs.

there is no such thing going into a 3 point stance while falling carrying that much equipment, of course you can always toss your rifle on the ground then jump down to it but good luck having it work properly afterwords.



you just bad mouth FA because its not an easy mod, no one is a instant god, and its obvious that you suck at it.

as leaderzor pointed out we played about 5-6 hours yesterday was a hella time, we both managed to have a 30-10 score most of the times.
he was a medic some times and was fixing my broken legs, cuts and scrapes.

so what i'm saying is dont knock a game you never bothered to put any real time into, FA takes practice, there is a steep learning curve with the weapons but once you get the hang of it you shouldnt have much trouble killing people.

like i said before if it takes you a whole clip to kill someone then you cant aim for peanuts, leaderzor can vouch for this i've killed 4 or 5 guys infront of him with M4 and no markmenship skills by just using semiauto and taking heads off.

Learn the game, dont just critize it because your too stupid to put time into it.
you dont hear me bad mouthing the ship or whatever other crapy mod you are into.
Man how wrong you are.

First off, weighed down with Armor, Rifle, Pistol, 3 Grenades and several clips of ammo, as well as supplies to last in the wilderness for 6 days(aka the standard equipment for combat usage), the AVERAGE(i.e., person not through boot) can survive a fall from 5 feet without broken legs. In fact, it can do 10 feet, if it knows how to hit the ground right. WITH Boot, you can do MUCH higher just by knowing what your doing.

2nd off, I was actually pretty good at Firearms. I'd get top killcount pretty fast thanks to the fact that the maps are designed so terribly its hard not to when your on a certain side. On one of the few maps that isn't designed terribly(and I don't mean they don't look good- they do. Its play that isn't good), I was doing VERY well.

Its just that it doesn't have the polish that things like NS and TS have. And thus, is like eating from In-N-Out, then going to McDonalds- you'd rather not do McDonalds, but when your hungry, it gets the job done.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Guspaz on July 19, 2004, 05:51:16 PM
I hate all realism mods. I managed to become decent at Reaction Quake 3, but I never liked it much. Played it mostly to play with a friend.

Somebody earlier said that we'd never get many people for a TFC server... Well, considering how the CS server was always LOCKED and only RS could play on it, I don't think the community size really matters :p
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 19, 2004, 05:53:55 PM
i was quoting a regular soldier without the battlefield agility skill...

with batagil you can take like 15foot drops and only take about 5dmg.



we need the FA server so i can prove all you disbelievers and neer sayers wrong.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Guspaz on July 19, 2004, 05:54:52 PM
Meh, if a firearms server goes up, I'll probably try it once to try the mod, and then never ever enter the server again.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on July 19, 2004, 06:03:04 PM
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Meh, if a firearms server goes up, I'll probably try it once to try the mod, and then never ever enter the server again.
Ditto to that.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 19, 2004, 07:01:33 PM
i'll do my best to make your stay a nightmare, and put you in the minus score.



Thank you come again.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Satiagraha on July 19, 2004, 07:04:46 PM
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1) Waaa you fall 5 feet and break a leg.

FLAT OUT NOT TRUE - I've fallen off rooftops. I've fallen off of boxes. I've jumped out of second story windows (backwards, while emptying a shotgun) and not suffered a broken leg. So you guys are either vastly exaggerating, or (and this is what I think) you guys really haven't played it and just recycle someone elses words.
Aye, tis exageration

In fact, now that i think about it, I don't play Firearms and think about any of this. I play it and have fun ^_^

I think that the firearms server should be public, but with the same res slot system as LM's NS server




P.S.   Seth: CHILL OUT!
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: That Annoying Kid on July 19, 2004, 07:23:30 PM
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Well, considering how the CS server was always LOCKED and only RS could play on it, I don't think the community size really matters :p
In reality all it takes to see the CS forum [and hence the IP and Password] is to be registered on the forums
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Uranium - 235 on July 19, 2004, 07:26:01 PM
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1) Waaa you fall 5 feet and break a leg.

FLAT OUT NOT TRUE - I've fallen off rooftops. I've fallen off of boxes. I've jumped out of second story windows (backwards, while emptying a shotgun) and not suffered a broken leg. So you guys are either vastly exaggerating, or (and this is what I think) you guys really haven't played it and just recycle someone elses words.
Aye, tis exageration

In fact, now that i think about it, I don't play Firearms and think about any of this. I play it and have fun ^_^

I think that the firearms server should be public, but with the same res slot system as LM's NS server




P.S.   Seth: CHILL OUT!
Fall damage is actually really really LIBERAL in this game. I've tried to kill myself (when I was learning how to play) by jumping off of tall things. I usually had to go find a sniper tower to hop out of since your average rooftop just nicked off around 20 health or so :p
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 19, 2004, 08:38:29 PM
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2) People just run around and shoot forward in circles.

Never seen this behavior, never


 :blink: ....


are you sure you were playing firearms then?

The basic strategy in that game for pubbers in pre and 2.7 builds was to run around foward like madmen with a smg/rifle and hoping to kill 2-5 people. You must be talking about another mod if nobody didnt run around in circles like madmen.

I mean, If u even WATCH the 2.7 trailer Half the scenes ARE in fact blue and red guys running around in circles (while holding down Run)


Now, this doesnt mean EVERY single person does it, because that would make it untrue. But Id definetly say through all the pubs i used to play on in 2.7, over 50% did do the "chase the others tail" game quite often.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 19, 2004, 08:47:08 PM
and have you seen the 2.9 promo video?

no running in circles in this one... or that i have ever seen to date.

plus comes with some cool killbill music... pure gold.


http://www.firearmsmod.com/FA29Promo.zip (http://www.firearmsmod.com/FA29Promo.zip)

oh yeah, forgot to post the file size for you 56ker's its around 26mb
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Lito on July 19, 2004, 08:54:57 PM
CANCEL THE VOTE! CANCEL THE VOTE! THIS JUST IN: HLDM = FUN
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Leaderz0rz on July 19, 2004, 09:03:56 PM
yea seth took out like 4 people, then i had to heal him  :p  

but really only snipers really go on killing sprees, and once you find them they can pretty much be handeled by a good flanking or grenade. as far as falling damage goes and breaking your leg, i use medium or light armor and i hardly ever break my leg, unless someone shoots me in the leg with a m60 or somthing.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Slink on July 19, 2004, 10:15:38 PM
GAH!!!  already voted, and now you're adding the option that i actually want...

mergle, need to re-create the vote again...



ooo, forgot my bragging rights...

WHO SUGGESTED HL-DM?   that's right, I DID!!!

sorry, had to...
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 19, 2004, 11:11:38 PM
HLDM is fun for a while, but it does get old. And besides, op4dm is more fun with more guns and stuff that goes boom and such. But still, default HLDM style is just so ooooold.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dubbilex on July 20, 2004, 07:45:23 AM
As far as I'm concerned firearms doesn't boast nearly enough specialness for a server of its own.  I've played it on-and-off since it was released (on-and-off because I generally tire of it VERY quickly and never play it again until a new release).  Perhaps it's because I suck.

Or perhaps it's because realism mods on an unreliable, aging game engine are an exercise in futility.  There are so many stupid variables (lag, hitboxes, mystical bugged playerslots,etc) that there's absolutely no science behind the game - you just shoot until they die.  Or until they see you shooting them, feel your many bullets impacting their flesh, and decide to turn towards you, kneel down, and cap calmly you.  Things like that kill atmosphere and leave a sour taste in my mouth :(

But I'll vote for it anyways, since we already have our ship server nd I couldn't care less about any of the other mods on the running.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 20, 2004, 07:55:51 AM
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and have you seen the 2.9 promo video?

no running in circles in this one... or that i have ever seen to date.

plus comes with some cool killbill music... pure gold.


http://www.firearmsmod.com/FA29Promo.zip (http://www.firearmsmod.com/FA29Promo.zip)

oh yeah, forgot to post the file size for you 56ker's its around 26mb
no, i havent been able to view their homepage AND im banned from their forums since 2.7, but ill give it a look.

EDIT: I just saw the video, and i really do hope thats not the running speed. if so, then thats just wrong.....
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on July 20, 2004, 08:25:59 AM
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HLDM is fun for a while, but it does get old. And besides, op4dm is more fun with more guns and stuff that goes boom and such. But still, default HLDM style is just so ooooold.
yes Op4 DM is better than HLdm, but Op4CTF is even better >:D

however, steam apparently screwed Op4, every sound and map and so forth is streamed to you, which naturally causes uber lag. but! mr DHPapagorge might have the solution! since i have the original Op4 on CD, i might be able to take the missing files from there, and if that works, i could send them around.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Tombomb on July 20, 2004, 11:59:05 AM
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But I'll vote for it anyways, since we already have our ship server nd I couldn't care less about any of the other mods on the running.
fuh? we have a ship server?
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: BobTheJanitor on July 20, 2004, 12:02:07 PM
Nah but there's enough out there that it doesn't matter. The few that exist are hardly ever played on. We just all pile on to one and play for a while until we get bored, then pile off.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Seth on July 20, 2004, 02:19:53 PM
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and have you seen the 2.9 promo video?

no running in circles in this one... or that i have ever seen to date.

plus comes with some cool killbill music... pure gold.


http://www.firearmsmod.com/FA29Promo.zip (http://www.firearmsmod.com/FA29Promo.zip)

oh yeah, forgot to post the file size for you 56ker's its around 26mb
no, i havent been able to view their homepage AND im banned from their forums since 2.7, but ill give it a look.

EDIT: I just saw the video, and i really do hope thats not the running speed. if so, then thats just wrong.....
no they speeded it up as to not waste time showing a guy running through the forest.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Grimm on July 20, 2004, 05:35:15 PM
I'm supporting TFC all the way with this, although I have no disagreements with getting Firearms because I had some entertaining rounds with the game when some friends tried to get me into it. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Dod after the aggrivating and frustrating rounds I've experienced (145 damage in the left leg for the insta-kill by a machine gun isn't cool).
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Redford on July 21, 2004, 12:41:09 PM
Grimm: that's the one reason why I hate DoD with a vengance.  There is realisim, and then there is too much realisim.  Having a rainbow 6 style damage system with HL weapons, weapon physics, and movement was simply not meant to be - regardless of what the developers of DoD say.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Diablus on July 21, 2004, 02:14:16 PM
well, i think the MG slug to the leg does about id say numeric wise 30-40 damage.

Now give the MG42 that with 1 tap shooting 2 shots, 1 -2 taps = pwntage.

MG's are supposed to hold positions and choke points and they seem to do the job pretty damn well, though on SOME maps MG's only cause hours of stalemates (very realistic heh) which tend to piss players off. like that uphill map with the avalanche style map textures, entering Allies spawn to capture that last flag is suicide when they have 1-2 MG's set up pointing at the 1 spot axis can enter through. Then on top of those MG's you have to worry aboutthe rest of the allied team aiming at that 1 entrance and exit point.


I like dod realism wise and especially graphic wise. but my stupid raedon9600xt and 2 sticks of 256MB or SDRAM CAN'T seem to HANDLE dod :blink:

thats why i didnt vote for DOD.
Title: What Server Would You Like?
Post by: Lightning Blue on July 21, 2004, 02:22:43 PM
Locking thread.