Overly Chatty Penguins
The Ready Room => General => Topic started by: Lito on April 23, 2004, 09:27:17 PM
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i beleive the system is the weapon sounds.
They get progressivly better sounding (from a small thumbtack launcher to an actual weapon) as you get weapon upgrades.
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sounds good (kekeke), but doesn't seem 'big' enough
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Finally, there is also one big new system that XP-Cagey, Joev, and myself are working on that will open up lots of possibilities. We will be making a big announcement about this system as we get closer to releasing it, but it will suffice to say that we think it will transform how NS is played. We're really excited about it, and I think you guys will love it. Stay tuned.
In other words, I doubt it.
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but the weapon sounds getting better are cool none the less.
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FLAME REMOVED. Do. Not. Ever. Flame.
The first phase of the BUS is most likey a info gathering tool only, we are sending info to somewhere everytime we play. I believe this because how are we supposed to beta test a secret? We cant...we dont know what to look for. So my guess is we are stress testing a new ONLINE system for NS but what that is I can say for sure.
There are several reasonably ideas floating around one being a global stats system. Problem with this is first there are many stats programs out there already, second it dosnt "transform how ns is played" in anyway, and lastly it does not apeal to the masses. Somthing like a stats system would only be of use to claners and people that just want to pwn. So I can say that this idea, though good, is probobly not the BUS.
The second idea I've heard is a player matching system, almost like a stats system but it puts you together with people that are you own skill. This however might "transform how ns is played" but not likely most people dont like to play with strangers and will contue to frequent their regular server. Also again...this only pertains to a select amount of people not the whole NS community at large. So I believe this is out also.
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I don't know for sure, but I think it's going to somehow incorporate Koolio the beer delivery robot (http://www.mil.ufl.edu/~brian/Koolio/Koolio.htm) into NS.
Call it a hunch.
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Alien Commander? err... Overmind? :huh:
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Well the new sounds are in the changelog nubcaek :p.
Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
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Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
Yarr! Lootin and plunder yo ho, yo ho!
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Anyone noticed how Voicecomm seems a little more echoy?
Or is that just me??
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i have a feeling we'll find out when they put the forums back.
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Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
ooooooo, I wonder if I could do some piratefying to the NS marines... :wacko:
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Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
ooooooo, I wonder if I could do some piratefying to the NS marines... :wacko:
Thats going too far :p
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Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
ooooooo, I wonder if I could do some piratefying to the NS marines... :wacko:
Thats going too far :p
You'll see, You'll see.
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thanks for ze flame, bozo, it was a GUESS. a bad one, albiet, but not worthy of such harsh flamage. I don't know if its just me or not, but the weapons DO sound better once you get the upgrades. The lmg sounded like a BB gun at level 0 and sounded much better at level 3
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gun sounds get better with each upgrade? I have not noticed this.
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warning goes up bozo for that flamey post. when you guys get 100% warning, Bad Things Will Happen.
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i beleive the system is the weapon sounds.
They get progressivly better sounding (from a small thumbtack launcher to an actual weapon) as you get weapon upgrades.
That already happened before.. its just that the previous different sounds weren't different enough for people to be able to tell.
if you had custom sounds (as I previously had before they were over written by b4) you would have been able to tell.. Easily.
As for the big unnanounced system.. I've been noticing some things popping up in my own server logs that I don't remember happening in b3.. Nothing amazing, just things like map validility checks.. Now, if they did not actually come up in b3, then I do think these may be part of the system, but not the entire system itself, obviously.. Since beta4 is only phase1..
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Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
ooooooo, I wonder if I could do some piratefying to the NS marines... :wacko:
do it! I'll use em ^_^
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Also I think it is going to be a new race! Teh SPAECPIRATES!!11111
ooooooo, I wonder if I could do some piratefying to the NS marines... :wacko:
do it! I'll use em ^_^
As I said, You'll see v_v
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I dunno but somehow Voicecomm is kinda echoy in large areas whereas it isn't in smaller areas...
Of course to hear it you gotta keep recording just a little longer.
(Good place seems to be Metal's RR for me)
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Hmmm BUS eh?
Let's look at what we know about Flayra.
1) He cares little for what the community thinks.
2) His idea of a 'good thing' is everyone elses idea of total crap.
3) He's completely obsessed with competative play, somehow thinking that when NS goes retail, they're going to go out and buy 15 copies apiece.
I have a feeling the BUS is some goofy stupid competative matchup system that will be a huge letdown. There have been hints at a competetive matchup system before.
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My only hope is that with him dissolving the Vet system, he'll listen to the playtesters more.
Fat chance.
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No need for flamebait either.
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Hey some of the PTs did play. ^_^
As for the BUS, I really don't know. But on the bright side it sounds like the PTs will be important again.
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I personally will subscribe to the theory that Flayra is out of ideas and he made that announcement for the sole purpose of creating threads like this, so he can browse through the speculation and find some new good ideas to implement. :D You should see the amount of ideas thrown forward on the NS forums.
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Bah. I've got three words and a symbol for you:
Ideas & Suggestions Forum
Yep. And if you've been involved in NS for more than a week, that will make you laugh. Why is I&S a laughingstock? Because no one reads it. It's just a trash can for people to throw their ideas about the game. The Public Beta forum has turned into the same thing. Public Beta 1 came out, people played and posted their opinions. A wee time later, Flay ACTUALLY READ the thread and implemented some ideas from it. That's the last time any dev has indicated that they took any interest at all in what the public had to say about NS.
Meh, I'll stop here so this doesn't turn into another of my rants, as this is my prime subject to rant on when it comes to NS. But yeah, they don't want to hear anyone's input.
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I really hope its not a global stats system. That would suck. Or at least, I hope there's a way to block the stats system on individual servers, if that is the case.
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I really hope its not a global stats system. That would suck. Or at least, I hope there's a way to block the stats system on individual servers, if that is the case.
It would most likely be a variable, just like spawn protection.
I don't think its gonna be a global stats system though.... Maybe....
SPAEC PIRAETZ!!!111
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My bet is Scorpions that hovar without flapping. After all, what can beat that? And I have photo proof that Flay is going to do it somewhere around here....
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hmm that has been an idea for ns for a long though hida
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I believe it will be a way to virtually implement a sheer rock wall, a "clorf" if you will, on every map. Upon said clorf, there shall be a series of remote controlled lerks, or "Lorks". These "lorks" shall proceed in sporing any marine that passes until a sizeable number of shotguns, or "shirtguns" have been dropped. After in which the lorks shall flee the clorf, in search of a safer, less shirtgun infested area.
Oh, and a giant statue of ANeM on every map.
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Problem with peoples input is that usually its stuff that wouldn't get put in at all. For every good suggestion there are 100 bad ones......
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well, lets see if voicecomm IS really echo-y in large areas, it may be the "aliens can hear marines" idea (note how they seem to be working on voicecomm: player names always black, commander background white, stuff)
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well, lets see if voicecomm IS really echo-y in large areas, it may be the "aliens can hear marines" idea (note how they seem to be working on voicecomm: player names always black, commander background white, stuff)
You can't forgot the clorfs though, I mean look at all this mapping madness!
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I can't resist.
Its a special BUS that the commander puts the marines in so they don't rambo off in odd directions.
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist
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well now that i can see BUS is most likely a program that when completed to its full form, it installs into your comp and the T- virus is spewed out of your speakers to turn you and your loved ones into a flesh eating zombiezzzzz!!!!!!!111
i mean comeon, cant you even see the umbrella corps in the backround of the main page Logo? all u gotta do is zoom in 400 pixels
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I can't resist.
Its a special BUS that the commander puts the marines in so they don't rambo off in odd directions.
I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist
A giant Catbus? :huh:
OOH awesome!!! :D
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Maybe a short, yellow dropBUS...?
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Of course! There will be drop ships that finally drop the long awaited nukes (or reinforcements if you research these instead)! No one should wonder what it is anymore. :lol:
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Maybe a short, yellow dropBUS...?
Yes, a short yellow dropship that the Commander can put his most "special" squad 6 marines on. It will roam the map with them inside, rendering them invunerable from scorpians and vines that attack when ur looken the other way.
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Maybe a short, yellow dropBUS...?
or maybe it's a roflBUS!
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http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/in...dpost&p=1042828 (http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=69202&view=findpost&p=1042828)
It'll include both toruney and pub changes...
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that means its an ingame thing
is it pai?
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Damnit joo foo, quit posting these linkies which I lack access too!
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rad4Christ,Apr 28 2004, 04:08 PM] http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/in...dpost&p=1042828 (http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=69202&view=findpost&p=1042828)
It'll include both toruney and pub changes...
quote and repost please ok
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I bet its an upgrade to let the CC have wheels and Hives to be controlled by players and grow legs and walk
i mean comeon, that will tottaly change the way NS is played, end game marine comm dropps 10 ccs drives into em, turns the engine off and the aliens would never find him!, then on the last 2 ccs he drives away with laughter then falls of a ledge which causes the cc to light on fire from the inside out causing him to be toasted alive, EXTRA...crispy....
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OMG n00b comm left engine idling olo!!11!!!
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And when you lock your keys in the CC, you have to use a coathanger to slimjim the door open :)
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then after you've broken into the cc the police will come and arrest you then feed you to aliens as teh death penalty
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Problem with peoples input is that usually its stuff that wouldn't get put in at all. For every good suggestion there are 100 bad ones......
yes, and i guess this is the reason that the devs doesn't listen to the I&S forum, but that's just my interpretion. Also iirc the only really good suggestions i've seen was suggestions that didn't invovle balance, only nifty additions. But yes, some Balance suggestions are good i suppose.
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XP-Cagey
Wow, that is bitter.
At this point, I'm the only developer actively developing BUS, and all the active developers (myself included) are working on bug and exploit squashing in both Combat and Classic modes for the next beta release.
Flayra's not stupid, and he knows he's got a good thing going with the strength of the NS community, the popularity of the game, and the traditionally positive reaction to his work. He's not about to abandon the game (or the game mode) that generated all of that.
Many of the changelist items--especially balance related ones--are Combat motivated. There's a good reason for that: Combat is a recent addition to the game, and while Classic also needs to be bug free and balanced, Combat has had farther to go recently. Combat's also here to stay--there isn't any chance of that changing.
Most of the high priority items on my list -- a 100% stable building/weapon drop, fixing the shotgun (now-doesn't-spark) bug, fixing the grenade + vent bug -- are going to directly benefit NS Classic. None of the private items on my list (including BUS) are Combat specific.
About half of the non-BUS items I've worked on since becoming an official coder on the project (instead of just a docs guy) have been exploit fixes or other work not shown to the public in Mantis--for obvious reasons, we don't make exploits and bugs that could hurt play public unless they're already widely known about like the problems I specifically mentioned in the last paragraph.
For the record, there are two reasons to withhold information on BUS:
It generates buzz about the development of NS (You're completely right about that, and like I said above, Flayra's not stupid). Would people quickly lose interest if they knew what we were doing? I suppose that depends on the individual, but everbody involved in the project has been excited over what we're doing since its inception--as any programmer can tell you, that's not always the case.
It's a huge system that needs to be introduced piecewise and tested in phases. We don't want to annonce a half-baked project and have people disappointed when it's not working yet--that goes double for me personally, since I'm currently leading the effort. I'd be far more worried about impatience than apathy if Charlie announced the project details tomorrow.
QUOTE (CutterJoe @ Apr 28 2004, 08:14 AM)
I hope it has something to do with both pub and clan play because if not, I, myself will be kind of dissappointed. Not enough to quit or hold a grudge just dissappointed in getting my hopes of for nothing.
It will have something to do with both.
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So, apparently the BUS is an implementation of the CAL rules PUG that many of you have played, in which the marine team in Combat are the attackers and aliens are the defenders with a time limit. At least, this is what it appears to be, from what I played tonight. Is this the BUS or is this just a minor change?
EDIT: Hmm, read the changelog, guess this isn't the BUS, but rather an old feature being put back in. Dang! I lose!
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It's obvious... it's a real-time nerfing system =D
The more you do cool stuff with anything the more the BUS nerfs it. That way fades turn to being even worse than just overgrown skulks as people play them... in real-time!!!
The net result is by the end of the game everyone is running about huffing and puffing like geriatrics feebly whacking each other with their canes and collapsing dead at the slightest breeze; just how flayra envisioned it!!! ^^
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The net result is by the end of the game everyone is running about huffing and puffing like geriatrics feebly whacking each other with their canes and collapsing dead at the slightest breeze; just how flayra envisioned it!!! ^^
:D
HEY NOW!!! :o
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^^^ :huh:
Finally, a clan (OMG ADVERTISING!) will own EVERYONE!!!!1111!!111!2!
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[OMGCLAN] !!!! wooo!
we will roxorz j00 boxorz! :ph34r:
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When the dust has settled, [mmi] will stand on the top. Mark my words.
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rad4Christ,May 5 2004, 04:21 AM] When the dust has settled, [mmi] will stand on the top. Mark my words.
oh PLEASE!! we all know that's ONLY because mmi is so freaking huge!! they recruit ANYONE!!
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Even Me?
Mr "I've got no skills at all?"
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Of course, Ven! Practically everyone has their own place in the [mmi] clan, even though they never talk to anyone else. :p
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I believe the new system will be the ability to smack your marines around for those who dont listen. Or maybe a kongo line where marines are forced into a line where they will dance their way to the hive with marakas and the aliens with enhanced hearing will not be able to stand the music will begin to spasm on the floor chuckling non stop.
Atleast thats what i think. :D
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Imagine watching a movie with someone and you get thirsty. It is an inconvenience to everyone watching the movie to stop the movie, but at the same time you don’t want to miss anything important. Koolio could solve your problem. Or say you are watching a boxing match with your buddies and need another beer. Instead of missing that knock out punch Koolio could deliver you, and all your friends, beer all night long. You have this luxury 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Find a human to do that.
A Woman.
[ontopic] I think the BUS will be something like Battle for the Galaxy, only on a much much wider scale.
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A Woman.
[ontopic] I think the BUS will be something like Battle for the Galaxy, only on a much much wider scale.
*hears a parade of women coming with signs and beat sticks to come beat up boggle for what he just said* >:D
*hears boggle running for his life yelling* :help:
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This has seemed to go off topic..I will bring it back on topic. :)
The "BUS" is a big catbus. The command selects the catbus from the cc. It drops in the middle of marine start. All the marines will then all get on the catbus and ride the the hive.
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The BUS is just a way to get your marines faster to a place.
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BUS = BUll ^^
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http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/in...dpost&p=1063431 (http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=70122&view=findpost&p=1063431)
Okay, BlackMage, what did you say? :D
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That was a fake edit by BM.
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That was a fake edit by BM.
It got me wondering for a while until I noticed
"This post may or may not have been edited by Flayra ^^"
Nice One BM ^_^
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I think a Perisitant world Like PLanetside would R0x0r for NS like aliens take some areas and rines gutta take em bak well.... just like planetside cept only 2 races. Still would rox lolz
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A new command interface with the ability to ZOOM in and adjust the placement shape of the structures you drop.
This would be so helpful on some spots where the ceiling is 20 meters up and what you are seeing looks like mice!
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As you can see, I'm not a good COMM
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http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/in...dpost&p=1063431 (http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=70122&view=findpost&p=1063431)
Okay, BlackMage, what did you say? :D
lol, lb got it
size -1 and bold the name ^^
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I think a Perisitant world Like PLanetside would R0x0r for NS like aliens take some areas and rines gutta take em bak well.... just like planetside cept only 2 races. Still would rox lolz
lurk please