Overly Chatty Penguins
The Ready Room => Off Topic => Topic started by: Grimm on February 26, 2004, 12:59:27 PM
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I finally found my StarCraft installer disk, so I've installed it and Brood War again. I had some fun playing against the computers in a few games, getting used to the speed of the game and such. Now I want to get some games in with/against real people, and I'd like to do that with any of us from the LM community. If you want to get into a game at any spur of the moment time, theres a good chance you can catch me in IRC and get me into one.
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Never played starcraft in me life. Don't even know where I'd get a copy. I'd like to try it out though. Meh well.
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hehe i just so happen to have brood war installed
we shall hafta play XD
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I played a game with dev last weekend. He owned my though. I got to get back in the groove. I swear if you don't play an RTS game for awhile, you will be owned when you play against a person.
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My brother lost my CDs :(
When I buy it again I'll play you guys.
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this was my training ground for being a comm. i'm only mediocre at the game tho :( i'll happily play coop against bots :D
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I was cleaning my room which I barely do when all of a sudden out of the corner of my eye, I see the broodwar cd cover shinning at me, quickly I open it only you find out that it was the original :angry: and the broodwar was at my friend's house which I'm getting tomorrow :D
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Never played starcraft in me life. Don't even know where I'd get a copy. I'd like to try it out though. Meh well.
hahahaha... good one! :lol:
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I certainly wouldn't mind firing up a game or two. Ask me in IRC if you're in the mood.
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well i lost my cdkey, so i bought the twinpack for 10 bucks today, i played a game with grimm and dahunzy and got spanked by the bots :lol: i forgot sooo much
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I'll pass. I never liked playing RTS games multiplayer.
1) If you're playing with someone better, you get your ass kicked, and you don't know why. Case in point: My first game of C&C '95 multiplayer: I'm building things, and like 30 seconds into the game (or something absurd) a chinook shows up, a commando gets out and blows my base to pieces.
2) It takes too god damned long to actually learn to be better, since each game can take so long. In FPS games, playing it is a dynamic learning experience. In an RTS game, you only figure out why you're losing after you lose a certain way 50 billion times :p
3) If you're losing, it's no fun. At least in FPS games you can run from the onos and dive headfirst into a pit.
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Uranium, that's why you play with people that you know.
1) I'm definitely not that much better than you. Nor, probably, are any of us. Besides, we're playing against the AI for now, at least until some of us get warmed up again.
2) Take advice
3) If you're losing, you get to play "guide the desperate damaged SCV to an allied base" and then watch as they obliterate your pursuers and put you back in the game. At least that's what we would have done for Leaderz0rz if he had put an scv in the dropship which was his last remaining unit :p
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I think the most players starcraft could hold in one round is 8 players, so it will be 4v4 or 2v2.
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The only Multi-Player RTS I like is C&C/RA/TS/RA2 mainly because it lends itself to multiplayer fairly well.
No offense to all you StarCraft lovers, its a great game but it rubs me the wrong way. I want Action not sitting on my ass for ages trying to ammass an army.
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The only Multi-Player RTS I like is C&C/RA/TS/RA2 mainly because it lends itself to multiplayer fairly well.
No offense to all you StarCraft lovers, its a great game but it rubs me the wrong way. I want Action not sitting on my ass for ages trying to ammass an army.
That only really happens on the money maps Ven. It can happen on the Blizzard maps when playing against computers, but if you're playing against a human on a Blizzard map, it's not very smart to try to build tons of units.
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If you've ever seen the streaming video feeds from matches in Korea, you'll see that it isn't always the largest army that wins a game.
It's funny, while playing with Jhunz and Leaderz0rz last night I was reminded of some funny stuff my friend did once: I had downloaded and installed NS on his computer to introduce him to it (this is back before 2.0 was released), so I go aliens. This is before I got into the habit of using a mic and headset, so his headset isn't plugged in but the mic is. So at a few random moments throughout the game, he grabs the mic and hits the voicechat key and yells "Spawn More Overlords!" in a deep, menacing voice. Was funny as hell for us. :lol:
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OMG I'll play StarCraft with you guys. I used to be in a clan. I just got in to playing it a little more when Jefe here FINALY went out and bought it. I've been geting tired of owning him over a lan. someone pm me when I'm online and I'll gladly go out and play with ya, even if it is murdering the computer. :)
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*rummages around, searching for BW cd*
Ven, take my word for it, on a money map...I can amass an army of 240 Hydralisks in about...5-10 minutes.
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Speaking of starcraft, im officially getting abck into SC mapping! (used to have all the awesome tools and was advanced with all the triggers and such) not gonan release any info yet cause i just started, but itll be worth the 2-3 week wait (itll be UMS) and mabye ill get back into sc again
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yeah, i can only really play against comps, since i'[m not smart enough, or fast enough, to take on humans :)
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speaking of editing, its been alittle over a year since i ended mapping, anyone know the name of the campaign editor( its not the original, its a more advanced one where u can do all sorts of things with the 7 -8 diff programs that come with it i.e.: build bunkers or buildings on sides of cliffs or in water, put eggs in random places, more trigger options etc.)
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If I would have know about that editor, I would have definitely started making more maps. I want to know about it too!
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StarEdit
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yea its star edit, get it here along with many other ones
http://www.campaigncreations.org/starcraft...ams/index.shtml (http://www.campaigncreations.org/starcraft/programs/index.shtml)
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Yeah, I knew about StarEdit (that's what I used to use). But these others....interesting.
EDIT: Which of these other ones basically has everything the others have? I want one that can do mostly everything.
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I've got Star wars and BR installed, I'm ready to go!
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When I saw this on phl today, I was laughing my ass off at the timing of it.
(http://www.planethalflife.com/images/photo/big/022804_full.jpg)
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Mal: Staredit does , just install the other 5-6 mini programs that it comes with, they do come realllly handy in big detailed maps cause they each do a specfic job
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I used to play starcraft, ^_________________^
it was all about teching with terran, starting with a specific build patter that I have forgot and halfway to seige tanks and goliaths be sure to drop rush on the opponents peons with the motorbykes, and then seige tanks and goliaths with drop ships and tear into the mofo with the stalled economy
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I never understood the point of the vulture... someone enlighten me? They make decent scouts, but once you get wraiths... well, wraiths are better in every way.
Drop some mines, then the vulture can't drop anymore, and you get to watch as the mines either:
1) Chase after an enemy for a while, then lose track and burrow somewhere where no one would ever go.
2) Chase enemies right into your defending forces, then blow everyone up.
3) Blow each other up.
Then the vulture has the annoying pea-shooter, and it's as weak as paper...
I never had much luck with siege cannons either, outside of proxy base defense, or shelling down structures. They could shoot farther then they could see, so I'd always end up with lots of dead marines, lots of dead zerg, and my siege cannon blowing everything away indescriminantly. Plus, in 'tank' mode, the cannon lost ALL it's sex appeal. *PEWM*... *PEWM*... please...
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I now officially hate starcraft in every respect.
When, oh when, will someone make an RTS that's not about mass, but about tactics and strategy?
Oh wait, they have..
http://www.totalwar.com/ (http://www.totalwar.com/)
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Starcraft does have strategy, every unit has a counter and that unit has a counter and so on. Mass attacks don't always work cause there's always a way to counter something in starcraft.
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I now officially hate starcraft in every respect.
When, oh when, will someone make an RTS that's not about mass, but about tactics and strategy?
Oh wait, they have..
http://www.totalwar.com/ (http://www.totalwar.com/)
Myth m'dear. Gets rid of the tedious base building. It's all units and tactics.
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Or Warcraft 3, Legionnaired.
And Satanic Monkey is right, every unit has a counter. I could mass Zerglings but they'll be slaughtered by upgraded marines in bunkers, mass Carriers to get blown from the sky by Scourges, etc etc etc.
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Or Warcraft 3, Legionnaired.[...]
Nah, basebuilding fest. If I give you a level ten hero and three footmen, then swarm you with twenty archers, you'll still lose, no matter how good your tactics or how many creeps you've killed.
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ah nite, if u need a lesson in speed tactics, ill gladly teach u for zerg
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Nah, basebuilding fest. If I give you a level ten hero and three footmen, then swarm you with twenty archers, you'll still lose, no matter how good your tactics or how many creeps you've killed.
But those 20 archers all use up food supply, which is already much lower in WC3 than in Starcraft, and you have to pay the upkeep cost. And aside from the fact that Heros aren't meant to be their own armies, they're used in conjunction with your army to get a bit of an edge.
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I have warcraft 3 and starcraft, but i think i prefer starcraft more... The Heros in warcraft make things too complecated, while building the base you need to be sure to make a mini-army so you can upgrade your hero, leaving your base close to helpless from a rush attack. However, if you're too slow, and your hero sux, than you're gona have problems in the long run. And of course, if he dies that's an extra couple hundred gold to ressurect him.
I like um both, but i don't like the idea of mixing an RTS and an RPG game while trying to out manuver the enemy at the same time. WAY too confusing. :p
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Google for "Starcraft X-Tra Editor", "ISOM Editor", "GUEdit".. I don't think you need much more then that..
Make sure to protect any public maps.. because someone will modify it, and make a lame version if you dont..
I'm almost done with a map for BW, its like the call for help ones
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We should make a private starcraft channel in battlenet and we can make private games......just my suggestion.
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we do, lunix :p on east
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http://www.campaigncreations.org/starcraft...ams/index.shtml (http://www.campaigncreations.org/starcraft/programs/index.shtml)
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yarrrr most of the time now theres a reg or 2 playin on bnet us east
heres a list of some players and their nicks that ive played with so far :D
ill arrange it like this
- player name in game - player name on lm
- rat12321 - aka [JFF]Kirby
- Leaderz0rz - heh , well hes Leaderz0rz :p
- GimmieStims - JHunz
- Isamil - once again , Isamil heh
- Dia_blus - Diablus
- devicenull - devicenull XD
- necravolvr - Grimm
- Legionnaired - Legionnaried
- ShootBang - ShootBang
- OttoDestruct - OttoDestruct
- Malevolent - Malevolent
- -[HoLy]- - Holy_Devil
- baconflaps - Bacon_flaps
and thats all whom ive played with so far :p
hehe aaaanddd hasnt played yet but maybe sooooon..
- WLP_Jefe - Jefe !!! or [ncr]jefe or whatever .. u get what im sayin
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For future reference my name on bnet is WLP_Jefe.
Simple enough, right?
Note: I would have played by now but my mom took away my computer.
For no reason at all.
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Anyone here a fan of RPG maps? Isamil and I were playing Forgotten Caves of Lythia by our twosies after Diablus and Otto quit, and we were wondering if anyone else wanted to play with us next time we tried to tackle it.
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Starcraft does have strategy, every unit has a counter and that unit has a counter and so on. Mass attacks don't always work cause there's always a way to counter something in starcraft.
That's not strategy, not at all, that's just game balance. There's actually not that much strategy in starcraft, not as much as there could be at least. Arbiters requires strategy. Bunkers full of marines shooting zerglings isn't strategy. It's hard to explain, so I'll say it how I do best: if you think simple balance is stragety, you're stupid.
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But those 20 archers all use up food supply, which is already much lower in WC3 than in Starcraft, and you have to pay the upkeep cost. And aside from the fact that Heros aren't meant to be their own armies, they're used in conjunction with your army to get a bit of an edge.
So what you're saying is that sophisticated, advanced units don't matter. All that matters is mass. Couldn't agree more. The good ol' "kekeke zerg rush ^____________^" is alive and well. He who wins is he who has the bigger army in shorter time. That may be strategy, but not tactics. And frankly, tactics are more fun. Gimme Myth any day.
Take my semi-bro: Unbeatable in Starcraft, which is why I rarely played against him. He didn't go for early rushes, but climbed the tech tree as fast as he could, then set up unbeatable unit combos. Until I did a kekeke zerg rush ^________________^ on him. He had no chance at all. Give me Myth with its fixed amount of units, the lack of a base and the comfortably paced, extra-tactical gameplay any day. If I want to play "economy management", I'll take Sim City instead.
Gotta run, it's full of Daewoos outside.
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Gotta run, it's full of Daewoos outside.
Is... is this a common problem in Europe? "It's slightly cloudy with a chance of Hyundai. Sweeping from the south we have a Daewoo front, with intense storms of Fords..."
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Anark, the nice thing of the name "Isamil", is its universal. If you find someone named Isamil in some game somewhere, chances are its me.
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Gotta run, it's full of Daewoos outside.
Is... is this a common problem in Europe? "It's slightly cloudy with a chance of Hyundai. Sweeping from the south we have a Daewoo front, with intense storms of Fords..."
Nah, just turned out to be the korean mafia. Seems they didn't agree with my sentiments on Starcraft. Nothing bad, had a little chat, exchanged opinions, all in good spirit. The doctor says he can put my kneecaps back on, provided I can find them.
Anark, the nice thing of the name "Isamil", is its universal. If you find someone named Isamil in some game somewhere, chances are its me.
The chance of someone called "lolfighter" being me is pretty high, too. One of the advantages of this nick is that it's so ridiculous, people can't make themselves plagiarize it.
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ah.. i found my broodwar cd.. but not the SC one :S however, having a jolly time with NWN.
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But those 20 archers all use up food supply, which is already much lower in WC3 than in Starcraft, and you have to pay the upkeep cost. And aside from the fact that Heros aren't meant to be their own armies, they're used in conjunction with your army to get a bit of an edge.
So what you're saying is that sophisticated, advanced units don't matter. All that matters is mass. Couldn't agree more. The good ol' "kekeke zerg rush ^____________^" is alive and well. He who wins is he who has the bigger army in shorter time. That may be strategy, but not tactics. And frankly, tactics are more fun. Gimme Myth any day.
Take my semi-bro: Unbeatable in Starcraft, which is why I rarely played against him. He didn't go for early rushes, but climbed the tech tree as fast as he could, then set up unbeatable unit combos. Until I did a kekeke zerg rush ^________________^ on him. He had no chance at all. Give me Myth with its fixed amount of units, the lack of a base and the comfortably paced, extra-tactical gameplay any day. If I want to play "economy management", I'll take Sim City instead.
Gotta run, it's full of Daewoos outside.
YUS!
Mech Commander, and the Total War series did this too. Tactical control of units wins the game, and the smarter man prevails. Death to the tank rush.
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picked up my broodwar cd yesterday... got all the patches installed and everything!
we should keep an updated list of the regs who play...
i'm BlaqWolf on east
and the channel is just 'lunix'? or is it 'lunixmonster?' i'll be available to play on saterdays mostly altho i'll be on sometimes during the week. gosh... i might actually have to get on IRC to get together with you guys.... :D
my skills are very rusty, as ive just lost to about 2 computers (pathetic), so i wanna get playin again
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Lunix.. we are lazy people, no reason to type more the necessary
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Is it a private channel or public?