Overly Chatty Penguins
The Ready Room => Off Topic => Topic started by: Niteowl on February 16, 2004, 12:25:13 PM
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so i got the nifty new Logitech Cordless KB and mouse with super fast MX RF technology!! i thought that all the complaints about it laggin was noticed only by the uber leet..
sadly, i was wrong. it seems to lag a hella lot, and sometimes gets stuck..
anyone have a wireless? or any clues on how to get working smoother?
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Sadly, I don't have any easy fixes for you. This is why I have shied away from wireless, is exactly these fears. Optical is bad enough (if you move it fast enough, it hardly picks up the movement at all). I'm starting to think that for gaming, a corded mouse with a regular mouseball instead of optical technology is really the way to go. Sometimes new technology is not the best! =(
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yea stay away from the cordless... no easy fixes - other than Mobile phones can screw it up - keep them away if you're not already doing so...
about Optical, i dunno, i havent noticed(it might just be me who doesnt move his mouse so fast) - but i've heard something about it being a tad laggy yea
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Tis true! Just take your optical mouse and move it back and forth across your pad really really fast. You'll notice the mouse cursor moves a few inches back and forth and that's it!
Due to my desk configuration, I have only about 2/3rds of my mousepad, turned LENGTHWISE to work with. And I like to play on low sensitivity too! So I find myself trying to whip about a lot and running into this problem. I keep cranking up my sensitivity, but that plays merry hell with my aim. Le sigh.
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Tis true! Just take your optical mouse and move it back and forth across your pad really really fast. You'll notice the mouse cursor moves a few inches back and forth and that's it!
Apparently not all optical mice suffer this problem, as I did just that and the cursor behaved exactly as it should have.
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That's only because you use scripts! WAAAH!
... Anyone else notice that it's a pretty slow day on the olde LM forums?
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only the older models of optical mice tend to suffer that problem, as the newer ones take far more pictures per second. I have one of the older ones :/
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i have the brand spanking new logitcech 700 MX thingymabobber.. well, i'm getting a super duper mouse pad thingy.. hopefully it'll help?
and yes bob, it's quite slow on the lm boards.
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That may be teh case, hunzie. It's a microsoft basic 5 button optical, I guess I have had it for about a year or so now... maybe tis time to start looking for a new one.
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I have a Logitech cordless/wireless mouse, and I don't notice anything wrong with its preformance. I was having a whole slew of problems with it right off though, and boy was that alot of fun. Sometimes, the mouse would act unresponsive, other times, the mouse would skip or jump constantly. There were many other smaller problems too, and after a bunch of attempted fixes, it began to work fine when I just replaced my mouse pad.
Appearantly, it likes my new Blue Man Group mousepad, and I haven't had any serious problems since. The thing eats batteries like all hell though, so a fair warning to ya Night. :D
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hm.. yeah, that's EXACTLY what's happening to me, unresponsive, laggin right out, really weird behaviour... so you say just getting a new mouse pad worked eh?
oh, and the MX700 has it's own recharging station, so no worries :D
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Yeah, a new mouse pad solved all my worries. As far as I can tell, the mice really like plain, lightish colored pads. Mine has a big huge face on it, so in certain spots (in the corners) it will act really funny still. A plain neutral gray pad should work marvelously. ;)
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well, i got this mouse pad.. if you wanna call it that:
http://www.allsop.com/product_detail.asp?model=27814 (http://www.allsop.com/product_detail.asp?model=27814)
it makes the mouse movement SUUUPER smooth, so far tracking is ok. but the way th emouse just glides off the pad, like there is almost no friction, is really nifty.
will prolly mess up my gaming tho :S
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IMO wireless = completely pointless... I'm not going to carry my mouse and keyboard outside my room. Hell it'll never leave the desk. Why people fork out $60 for a wireless keyboard... I'll never know.
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Uranium, sometimes it's needed. In my case, I had to mauver my cord so much to get to my mouse pad, I had a whole half an inch of cord to move my mouse before the cord would get caught and the mouse would snap out of my hand. Not very good for my aim, nor my anger. I understand the keyboard too, as it too might have its uses.
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There are plenty of reasons to go wireless on something. The main reason, IMO, is that cords on mice and keyboards are too damn short. If I wanted to use my keyboard while lying on my bed instead of sitting in my anti-ergonomical buttocks-torturing chair, I couldn't, because the cable connecting it to the back of my computer is like a foot long at most.
And the ever-tangled too-short mouse cord is something else that gets on my nerves.
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the point of a wireless mouse is simple, no wire, so you don't have length problems, you don't have a cord dragging or getting stuck on somthing, i have a microsoft intelimouse wireless, and I have never had a problem with it, i replace the batteries every month or so, and i use the max payne mousepad that i got with max payne :D
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OMG OMG Leader I have the same mouse pad. You can be my mouse pad buddy. It's gotten awfully faded and crappy looking since though. They should have released a new mouse pad with Max Payne 2. Like... updated with the new havok physics engine so you can drop it on the floor and it looks just like a real mouse pad falling on the floor... or something... yeah.
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nope, no help...
back to the old boomslang that has crazy sensitivy that i can't tweak down enough and taht double clicks when it feels like it.. shazbot.
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Night, did the mouse come with an optional USB port connector? Because on my borther's optical, the mouse acted psycho without being plugged into the USB. Also, on my friends, plugging it into the mouse socket made it work, but plugging it into the USB made it go insane. Don't know if that has anything to do with your problems, but thought it might be worth mentioning.
Also, Logitech has some really funky settings that may be causing the hyperactive sensitivity. One of the settings is Mouse Acceleration. I didn't notice it, but when my friend sat down to play some NS, he kept whipping about like a madman. After shooting everything on the screen but what he was trying to aim at, he made me look for the settings in the 'mouseware' taskbar helper and disable it.
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Night, did the mouse come with an optional USB port connector? Because on my borther's optical, the mouse acted psycho without being plugged into the USB.
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Also, Logitech has some really funky settings that may be causing the hyperactive sensitivity. One of the settings is Mouse Acceleration. I didn't notice it, but when my friend sat down to play some NS, he kept whipping about like a madman. After shooting ..
thanks for you help path, but a few notes
-the CRAZY sensitivity is actually on my boomslang, and i fixed that :) with ti's own nifty drivers
-the mouse has a usb and a mouse. i tried both. the usb is only for laptops, apparently, and when i plug it in, only the kb works
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I still use a corded microsoft mouse with 2 buttons, a mouse wheel, and a mouse ball. I always have trouble with opticals, always. One problem is if I need to lift up the mouse and put it down on the other side, the mouse still tracks movement up to an inch away from the pad. Thats REALLY annoying.
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lol I have the Max Payne pad too ;) I cycle between Mechwarrior 3 and Max Payne (When I spill a drink on it, I switch. Needless to say they're both in sad sad shape).
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I still use a corded microsoft mouse with 2 buttons, a mouse wheel, and a mouse ball. I always have trouble with opticals, always. One problem is if I need to lift up the mouse and put it down on the other side, the mouse still tracks movement up to an inch away from the pad. Thats REALLY annoying.
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Meh, mine doesn't track past about 5 millimeters. Plus, if your sensitivity is sorta high, you never need to.
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See this is when I feel glad I use a trackball......
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kinda late for this but going back to bob mentioning the mouse mucking up when you move the mouse too fast... it happens to ball mice too =P
I was playing 'spank the monkey' where you basically have to whip the mouse across the screen as fast as possible and it gives you the speed you hit spank (the monkey ^^ ). Course above a certain speed the optical mouse went nuts and the arrow didn't follow my movement properly. In frustration I took it out and plugged in a ball mouse and.... it did exactly the same thing o.O
Fine for normal mousey speeds but for the silly speeds I was whipping the mouse at neither the ball nor optical could handle it. Mind you this is my current optical mouse we're talking about which is now 4-5 years old =3
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That may be teh case, hunzie. It's a microsoft basic 5 button optical, I guess I have had it for about a year or so now... maybe tis time to start looking for a new one.
Is it this mouse?
(http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/images/mouse/prod_imo.jpg)
If so, NEVAR Part with it. I have 2 of these, and I will use no other mouse!!! This is the best mouse EVAR!!!
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crap... do i have to go and buy ANOTHER pointing thingy?!?!?
all told i have
-logitech trackball
-no name trackball
-logitech ball mouse that's .. uh.. how old is the Pentium 1?
-logitech corded laser (oooo, bluee)
-boomslang uber gamer mouse (would be great if it wasn't picky about when it wanted to fire, or interpret single click as dbl click)
-logitech MMX 700 cordless laser
*looks at list*
hmmm. never get logitech again?
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i have the MX500 - i really like it(it's just a cordless version of 700/900). havent had any problems with it. you could take a look at Microsofts newest mouse(explorer 5 or so), quite sexy it is - you can even get a leather version
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A leather mouse! SAUCY!
I'm holding out for the leather gerbil with miniature whip, myself.
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Sorry, only advice I can give is to stay away from wireless stuff when it comes to gaming, and buy high quality input devices, such as my MS Internet MultiMedia Keyboard and my MS Intellmouse 5 button optical mouse, both of them work like a charm.
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dude, if your moving your mouse so fast that the LASER is missing the mirror... gosh darn, up your sensitivity
[EDIT]: I cursed, and had to correct it.
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I will never get a wireless mouse and/or keyboard for gaming. Given my luck, the batteries would fail right when I'd have the chance for the best kill in the game.
However, wireless is very good for casual use, when timing isn't necessary and if a battery fails, it's no big deal to go replace it.
My girlfriend Nikkie has wireless both (Logitech), and it's really fun to just sit on her bed and type and chat with friends online while surfing.
However, I need to go to my laptop and its 2 year old opitcal corded mouse (touchpads can burn) when I want to play. I'm too paranoid to use the wireless mouse and keyboard when I care about the integrity of my Soviet base or my rushing Marines (I'm an avid Red Alert 2, Civilization III, StarCraft fan).
And yes, yell at me for having a laptop and wanting to game on it. I don't care. It may have been more expensive than a desktop of the same features, but the ability to just up and move it with no effort is key to me in a college setting. I wouldn't want to try the same with a desktop.
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i had a wireless keyboard and mouse, and I game everyday, its 10x better then my wired mouse, I always hated the mouse wire dragging, this way i have free movment and nothing to mess me up, and the batteries don't die every week like people make it seem, I use my mouse atleast 8 hours a day or more, and I need to replace them every month or so, for 7 dollars i get 6 months of mousing.... ot 3 months if i count in my keyboard
and we need to sign a petition for them to make a Max Payne 2 mouse pad, the first one is the greatest mouse pad ever,
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Sorry, only advice I can give is to stay away from wireless stuff when it comes to gaming, and buy high quality input devices, such as my MS Internet MultiMedia Keyboard and my MS Intellmouse 5 button optical mouse, both of them work like a charm.
Ha, I have the exact same thing ;)
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IMO wireless = completely pointless... I'm not going to carry my mouse and keyboard outside my room. Hell it'll never leave the desk. Why people fork out $60 for a wireless keyboard... I'll never know.
I *ugh* agree with *argh* Uranium. *sob*
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Wireless keyboards are just pointless. Wireless mice would be neat (no cord interfering with your movements), if you didn't have to change the batteries all the time. And if the batteries weren't so GODDARNED HEAVY.
"Yeah, surgeon general's warning: Using this mouse may snap your wrist!"
What can we do about that?
"I know! MAKE THE MOUSE EVEN HEAVIER BY STUFFING BATTERIES INTO IT!"
Oh! Oh! Like a bowling ball?
"Boat anchor."
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Meh okay:
1) I use a wireless mouse because the cords are so damned short.
Eh? The cords on my keyboard and mouse are longer then my monitor cables, and they're both incredibly common brands (The Microweb Intersoft Exploder keyboard or whatever and the Intellisoft Exploder 5 button thinger). Hell I had to put the keyboard where it is simply because my MONITOR wouldn't stretch any farther.
2) I don't like the cord getting caught up in things.
Solution: Unplug your mouse, drag the cord completely out, then replug it in on top of all the other cords. Tadah, it will never get stuck on anything anymore.
*Shrug*
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the 700MX has it's own charger, no batteries to switcheroo. it seems to be working ok, still feels kinda funny. i think mainly due to the lack of friction between this uber pad and the mouse..
i guess a full charge, and move the RF receiver from the monitor and pretty much everything else seems to have helped..
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the 700MX has it's own charger, no batteries to switcheroo. it seems to be working ok, still feels kinda funny. i think mainly due to the lack of friction between this uber pad and the mouse..
i guess a full charge, and move the RF receiver from the monitor and pretty much everything else seems to have helped..
Boat anchor my boy, boat anchor. Battery switchoring is the lesser of the two evils. I bet your mouse is a good deal heavier than my MX310. Which I love. So far, I haven't been able to move it fast enough for the laser to miss. Either I'm way slow (might explain why I use high sensitivities) or the mouse is neat.
And Owl, you, as a specialist on meeces, should know: A meece without a tail is a FREAK of NATURE.
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i got a normal blue mouse pad, moved the RF receiver, it's gold now. GOOOLD BABAY!! GOOOLD!!
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hi Nightowl
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i got a normal blue mouse pad, moved the RF receiver, it's gold now. GOOOLD BABAY!! GOOOLD!!
No, it's still wireless. It is like the devil! It is like the DEVIL!
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i got a normal blue mouse pad, moved the RF receiver, it's gold now. GOOOLD BABAY!! GOOOLD!!
No, it's still wireless. It is like the devil! It is like the DEVIL!
if the Devil is in fact, a tasty, sexy, pointing treat. then yes, it is the veritable incarnation of said otherworldly demon (gah, had to fight the instinct to spell it daemon).
and lo there TAK :)
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It is like God. IT IS LIKE GOD! Umm... if the being like the devil is good that is. Uhh... help?
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I should get them to whack 100 posts off your count for your nonsensical crap lately :p
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I should get them to whack 100 posts off your count for your nonsensical crap lately :p
Yeah, Niteowl really deserves to be shown his place. Right? Right? Not Niteowl? No? Umm... I'll get back to you.