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The Ready Room => Off Topic => Topic started by: Bryan on September 15, 2005, 09:05:46 PM

Title: I <3 people
Post by: Bryan on September 15, 2005, 09:05:46 PM
not, not really. In fact I hate you all but, equally. I'm an equal oppertunity hater.


anyways the point of this thread.


http://title.forbiddenlibrary.com/ (http://title.forbiddenlibrary.com/)


I dont read much but, as it turns out, most of my fav. books have been banned at one point or another. An entire list of books baned for really stupid reasons. I have read about 25 to 30% of them. I really don't understand. We all have the power to change the world. whay not add something to it insted of acting on stupid fears to take away from others. Maybe im just really tired. you tell me.

Bryan
Title: I <3 people
Post by: aeroripper on September 15, 2005, 09:17:21 PM
Gotta love censorship.  Don't want people to get ideas in their heads that don't fit well into your world view.  And seriously, these books wern't even that bad?  I was expecting bans on communist writings and the like (because learning about the rest of the world is bad).  Seriously, book burning is the highest form of ignorance.

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It. Stephen King. Viking. Challenged at the Lincoln, Nebr. school libraries (1987); placed on a "closed shelf" at the Franklinville, N.Y. Central High School library (1992

rofl, that's my town!
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Anarki3x6 on September 15, 2005, 09:37:12 PM
yeeaaaaaaaah. people are just... dumb... like that... with their idiotic bans... i try not to think about them... cuz it makes me want to stab myself in the face...
Title: I <3 people
Post by: SwiftSpear on September 16, 2005, 12:05:06 AM
Well, at least we know that conservitive lunitics have been intentionally ignoring message and banning things at rampant since the beginning of time.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: A Boojum Snark on September 16, 2005, 12:58:21 AM
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Where's Waldo?  Martin Handford. Little.  Challenged at the Public Libraries of Saginaw, Mich. (1989), Removed from the Springs Public School library in East Hampton, N.Y. (1993) because there is a tiny drawing of a woman lying on the beach wearing a bikini bottom but no top. Yes, but did they find Waldo?

roffle. <_<

I think that's about the best of them.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Bryan on September 16, 2005, 07:06:43 AM
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Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.  Lewis Carroll. Ace; Bantam; Crown; Delacorte; Dover; NAL; Norton; Penguin; Random; St. Martin. Banned in China (1931) for portraying animals and humans on the same level, "Animals should not use human language."

I want to read this book agian. ever few years it seems I get the Alice bug.


Bryan
Title: I <3 people
Post by: lolfighter on September 16, 2005, 09:24:01 AM
We've all heard of the big book burnings that the german National Socialists staged. Those were the books on te so-called 'black list,' books that were 'bad influences on the german people.' There was another, very different list, the 'white list,' containing books that were 'suggested reading for the german people.'
When noted german author Erich Kästner (living in british exile) heard that his books had been placed on the white list, he wrote a letter to the german government demanding that his books rather be burned in the cleansing flames than be used for such smut. And so, his books were placed on the black list and burned.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: devicenull on September 16, 2005, 11:36:51 AM
Well, think of it this way.  We (most of us) live in a nation where people can sue for spilling hot coffee on themselves, AND WIN.  banning these books is simply better then being sued for milllions of dollars.  While it may not be right, its a sad thing that it is present in todays socieity.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Black Mage on September 16, 2005, 12:50:48 PM
the dairy queen coffee lawsuit was valid, the location in question had been warned several times by health inspectors to lower their temperatures but the DQ ignored them. the lady only sued after DQ failed to assit her in paying for ambulance fees, hospital fees and reconstructive surgery. she had third degree burns covering 95% of her upper legs and most of the skin on her fore-upper legs had been burnt off. she had to be hospitalized for over two weeks and then had to go through rehab and reconstructive surgery because large chunks of her leg had to be removed due to the burns.
also, liquids at 195F-200F in a styrofoam cup tend to make the cup unstable
Title: I <3 people
Post by: aeroripper on September 16, 2005, 12:56:04 PM
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the dairy queen coffee lawsuit was valid, the location in question had been warned several times by health inspectors to lower their temperatures but the DQ ignored them. the lady only sued after DQ failed to assit her in paying for ambulance fees, hospital fees and reconstructive surgery. she had third degree burns covering 95% of her upper legs and most of the skin on her fore-upper legs had been burnt off. she had to be hospitalized for over two weeks and then had to go through rehab and reconstructive surgery because large chunks of her leg had to be removed due to the burns.
also, liquids at 195F-200F in a styrofoam cup tend to make the cup unstable

I thought it was McDonalds... or was there another incident?

Yea i hear people complain about suing for spilling coffee case a lot but don't know the whole story.  Although i agree there are plenty of frivolous lawsuits out there (not talking about bush's law that limits when you can call a class action lawsuit against a corporation for making you sick, or suing for millions... gg big business)
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Bryan on September 16, 2005, 01:20:31 PM
yes there where 2 the mc-e-ds is whats wrong  with the country and there for more popular. also the mc donalds one was later reversed. FYI.

Bryan
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Bryan on September 16, 2005, 01:26:02 PM
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Well, think of it this way.  We (most of us) live in a nation where people can sue for spilling hot coffee on themselves, AND WIN.  banning these books is simply better then being sued for milllions of dollars.  While it may not be right, its a sad thing that it is present in todays socieity.
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another part of whats wrong with our world. im trying to come with a better way of doing things but, it a lot harder than it looks. the "human factor" really makes things difficult. A dictator ship is simply out of the question. there are to many people for one Person to look after so.... that leaves checks and balances system (our goverment). we need a simple vague sat of rules (guidelines really) (a constiution) but, people take a dvantage of it and then we need set in stone laws and  this is where it all falls apart. The problem with socity is people.


Bryan


what im trying to say is insted of complaining about our world (which i do a lot) we need to find a better way. I say develop a new goverment(on paper) write a book about it. or rather about people who live in this new world to show how you have thought of every thing. Publish it and allow our goverment to ban it...in fear and let the revelotion begin!!!
Title: I <3 people
Post by: LowCrawler on September 16, 2005, 02:39:40 PM
yeah things being banned without reason sucks
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Manta on September 16, 2005, 05:37:46 PM
Very subtle.  :lol:

I like how Rome banned Paradise Lost. Anyone who knows what the book's about will know.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: devicenull on September 18, 2005, 12:37:25 PM
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the dairy queen coffee lawsuit was valid, the location in question had been warned several times by health inspectors to lower their temperatures but the DQ ignored them. the lady only sued after DQ failed to assit her in paying for ambulance fees, hospital fees and reconstructive surgery. she had third degree burns covering 95% of her upper legs and most of the skin on her fore-upper legs had been burnt off. she had to be hospitalized for over two weeks and then had to go through rehab and reconstructive surgery because large chunks of her leg had to be removed due to the burns.
also, liquids at 195F-200F in a styrofoam cup tend to make the cup unstable
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If it was that hot, it would certainly make the outside of the cup at least hot to the touch.. and would you really put something that hot between your legs?  I haven't been in a car yet that doesn't have cup holders..

http://www.power-of-attorneys.com/StupidLawsuit.htm (http://www.power-of-attorneys.com/StupidLawsuit.htm)
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Black Mage on September 18, 2005, 01:08:44 PM
styrofoam cup
styrofoam is one of the worlds lightest insulators
read: inside of cup is zOMGHOTHOTHOT. outside of cup is frosty.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: lolfighter on September 18, 2005, 06:47:35 PM
Coffee is made with boiling water. That's 100 degrees Celsius or 212 degrees Fahrenheit. When ordering coffee (or tea for that matter), it should be assumed that the liquid can be anywhere up to that temperature, and it should be permissible to assume that everybody assumes this. The law exists to protect us from OTHERS, not ourselves. When the law punishes OTHERS for OUR mistakes, it doesn't work. The law exists to place blame and punishment WHERE IT BELONGS.

But on the other hand, if an establishment is selling boiling liquid in a container that cannot withstand 100 degrees Celsius, they do deserve the blame.
Title: I <3 people
Post by: LowCrawler on September 18, 2005, 07:52:39 PM
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the dairy queen coffee lawsuit was valid, the location in question had been warned several times by health inspectors to lower their temperatures but the DQ ignored them. the lady only sued after DQ failed to assit her in paying for ambulance fees, hospital fees and reconstructive surgery. she had third degree burns covering 95% of her upper legs and most of the skin on her fore-upper legs had been burnt off. she had to be hospitalized for over two weeks and then had to go through rehab and reconstructive surgery because large chunks of her leg had to be removed due to the burns.
also, liquids at 195F-200F in a styrofoam cup tend to make the cup unstable
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If it was that hot, it would certainly make the outside of the cup at least hot to the touch.. and would you really put something that hot between your legs?  I haven't been in a car yet that doesn't have cup holders..

http://www.power-of-attorneys.com/StupidLawsuit.htm (http://www.power-of-attorneys.com/StupidLawsuit.htm)
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/me submits (http://www.blackmage.org/lowcrawler/mycar.jpg)

to the list of cars without cupholders
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Fewlio on September 18, 2005, 09:05:39 PM
Nice LC, talk about making an image that is the only known thing bigger than the xbox itself!
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Black Mage on September 18, 2005, 11:51:25 PM
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Coffee is made with boiling water. That's 100 degrees Celsius or 212 degrees Fahrenheit. When ordering coffee (or tea for that matter), it should be assumed that the liquid can be anywhere up to that temperature, and it should be permissible to assume that everybody assumes this. The law exists to protect us from OTHERS, not ourselves. When the law punishes OTHERS for OUR mistakes, it doesn't work. The law exists to place blame and punishment WHERE IT BELONGS.

But on the other hand, if an establishment is selling boiling liquid in a container that cannot withstand 100 degrees Celsius, they do deserve the blame.
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styrofoam, when 2-3mm think (dq cup size) begins to fail (fail as in poke = splat) when heated to 90-95C if i remember my chemistry teacher correctly
Title: I <3 people
Post by: Bryan on September 19, 2005, 07:47:35 AM
im glad that my grand vertues of off-topic-ness are being followed so well.


:)


Bryan


dident we start with something about books?