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The Ready Room => Off Topic => Topic started by: LowCrawler on December 12, 2004, 03:13:38 PM

Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on December 12, 2004, 03:13:38 PM
I present to you all, a true gaming jewel. Published back in '99 by the now extinct branch of Eidos "Pumpkin Studios" is the greatest RTS game ever. Its true 3d engine is the first of its kind, and the only one executed well. You can pan, rotate, zoom, and manipulate the camera any way you want...

and the true innovation, you must design you own units. Yes thats right folks, you choose the propulsion, body, weapon, etc for maximum versatility... theres literally thousands of combinations, each of them serves its own purpose.

This lovely game is currently out of print, however, if you send me an email to jimmyfisher@gmail.com, we may be able to find a way. If youre interested just let me know, it wont cost you a dime.

and now the screenshots (note that these are all actual in-game screens...)


(http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/05/02/ME0000050203_2.jpg)


(http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/05/02/ME0000050206_2.jpg)


(http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/05/02/ME0000050207_2.jpg)
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Uranium - 235 on December 12, 2004, 05:07:34 PM
Those 'Design your own units' games hit the ^^ter because no one could stand how stupidly convoluted they were and how difficult and time-consuming it was.


There was a really bad game called Metal Fatigue (Or something) where you'd design units. You could give them hovercraft chassis, walking legs, treads, wheels, etc. Then you chose from about 2900 different frames, armed them with 87*10^54 redundant weapons and worthless features, and then watch the ugliest war machine ever made walk out and die instantly because you couldnt' afford to put armor on it

Besides, it doesn't look like Homeworld so I don't see how it can be better :).
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Anarki3x6 on December 12, 2004, 05:52:01 PM
there were plenty games like this back in the day, many unknown :/ theyre not so great to play nowadays imo, just to look back on em and see what games were like back in the day :)

im currently engulfed in the battle for middle earth and it owns my pants off :)
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: confused! on December 12, 2004, 06:01:18 PM
dude. in terms of rts sweetnes i recommend  groundcontrol 2  if only i had time to play it.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on December 12, 2004, 06:16:47 PM
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Those 'Design your own units' games hit the ^^ter because no one could stand how stupidly convoluted they were and how difficult and time-consuming it was.


There was a really bad game called Metal Fatigue (Or something) where you'd design units. You could give them hovercraft chassis, walking legs, treads, wheels, etc. Then you chose from about 2900 different frames, armed them with 87*10^54 redundant weapons and worthless features, and then watch the ugliest war machine ever made walk out and die instantly because you couldnt' afford to put armor on it

Besides, it doesn't look like Homeworld so I don't see how it can be better :).
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oh no, this is good stuff. the unit design is finished in about 3 clicks per unit...


i love playing this game online... someone ask me and ill give it to you and we can play!
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: BobTheJanitor on December 12, 2004, 09:19:45 PM
My only experience with 'design your own' was Microsoft's Incredible Creatures, or Amazing Critters, or Wacky Beasties or whatever the hell it was called. I wasn't fond of it. Balancing a game where the units are made up of a wide number of variables requires a load of work that I seriously doubt they put into it. I played the demo and said 'meh'. Give me a game with limited units that fill specific roles any day. You know where your strategic planning stands with a game like that.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: duherman on December 12, 2004, 10:27:04 PM
Looks more like those old Command & Conquer games.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Crispy on December 13, 2004, 05:56:11 AM
C&C is old know? What does that make me? :(
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: CorvusX on December 13, 2004, 06:07:08 AM
I remember trying to make MrBill play this game.  Don't remember if he ever did or not ^_^

Anywho, yeah it's a great game.  Had loads of hours trying to figure out what combinations are best.  Heavy tanks with a hover-commando dohickey is ftw.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: SgtFury on December 13, 2004, 06:22:37 AM
Alpha Centauri had design your own units. But those were useful. ECM for advance detection etc. I used to love that game but my alien crossfire cd died   :(
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on December 13, 2004, 06:48:52 AM
Uranium, that isn't Metal Fatigue. Metal Fatigue was own though....yes you could costumize you units, but there weren't that many different ways to build them, and most modules can be used for different things. it only had 4 different types of parts. Torso, 2 arms and legs.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Uranium - 235 on December 14, 2004, 08:15:28 AM
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Uranium, that isn't Metal Fatigue. Metal Fatigue was own though....yes you could costumize you units, but there weren't that many different ways to build them, and most modules can be used for different things. it only had 4 different types of parts. Torso, 2 arms and legs.
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I must be thinking of a different game. This one was really :P, and really buggy.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: TheAdj on December 14, 2004, 08:27:53 AM
Alpha Centauri is quite possibly the most complicated, time consuming, wonderful RTS game I've played.  I've spent probably 6 months of my life playing that game, it's a really good RTS.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Decimator on December 14, 2004, 11:42:44 AM
Except for the fact that it's turn based, thereby precluding it from the Real-Time Strategy genre.  :p
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Cheez on December 14, 2004, 12:02:49 PM
hah the graphics in that game remind me of ground control 1, ahh..memories.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Isamil on December 15, 2004, 03:06:02 PM
I could never get into Alpha Centuri...
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on December 15, 2004, 03:17:26 PM
corvus im gonna send this to scootar... did you ever play the 1.12 version?

its win and its the one im offering.

you should play with  me and scoots corvus... that would be fun
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Legionnaired on December 15, 2004, 08:51:10 PM
Anyone up for some Homeworld sometime? What about C&C Generals?
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: CorvusX on December 15, 2004, 10:09:16 PM
LowCrawler:  dunno what version I have.  Lent it to my roomate and haven't seen it since.  I'll have to ask him for it sometime soon.

And Lego:  Sure, I'm up for some Generals whenever anyone else is.  Zero Hour or just regular?  Guess I'd better start hanging in the LM channel a bit more then :p
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Legionnaired on December 16, 2004, 09:11:24 AM
Regular, I didn't have enough appriciation for the game to go for the expansion.

Metal Fatigue was fun, but it really started sucking when your mechs wiped out everything on the surface, only to find that the enemy had tanks galore underground where your metals couldn't go. So you'd have to re-tool your whole army, get tanks, go down there and get crushed by their static defenses. Really sucked.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Ulatoh on December 16, 2004, 10:35:25 AM
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Regular, I didn't have enough appriciation for the game to go for the expansion.

Metal Fatigue was fun, but it really started sucking when your mechs wiped out everything on the surface, only to find that the enemy had tanks galore underground where your metals couldn't go. So you'd have to re-tool your whole army, get tanks, go down there and get crushed by their static defenses. Really sucked.
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ditto, they could have solved this problem by putting a timer on the hp of all units trapped underground
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Decimator on December 17, 2004, 02:05:41 PM
I discovered today that the source code for warzone 2100 has been released, and the full game is available for download here. (http://www.strategyplanet.com/warzone2100/)  The .rar includes the full source code and the game, which is in the data folder.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on December 18, 2004, 10:38:16 AM
scooter and i played a round last night and here are the beautiful screenshots i took.

Leet Fireworks you get when you win (http://gmail.google.com/gmail?view=att&disp=thd&attid=0.1&th=100e74141f3a32f3)

scooter pwns me (http://gmail.google.com/gmail?view=att&disp=thd&attid=0.2&th=100e74141f3a32f3)
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Decimator on December 18, 2004, 12:20:38 PM
Why do those link to gmail?
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on December 18, 2004, 01:16:01 PM
because thats where they are... i emailed them to meself.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on December 19, 2004, 01:13:14 PM
okay this time theyll work

(http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL835/2843681/5724606/77130592.jpg)

(http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL835/2843681/5724606/77130545.jpg)
done.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: spinviper on January 08, 2005, 07:53:01 PM
dling now.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: DruBo on January 08, 2005, 08:11:20 PM
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Anyone up for some Homeworld sometime?
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Rawr. Ph33r my pincer maneuver.

Ion cannon frigates FTW.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: spinviper on January 09, 2005, 02:10:06 AM
Low, do you have warzone.wdg? If you do pls send it to me. You can upload it to yousendit or ezshare. Thanks in advance.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Mr.Bill on January 09, 2005, 09:38:36 AM
I'd love to play this, was going to last night. But I had to sleep, beause it was almost 1 am. I think it's a valid excuse.

Anyway, as soon as low un-nubs himself and gets ai working, itll be even better :-D
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: LowCrawler on January 09, 2005, 10:19:25 AM
Spin: I have that file, can i ask why you need it? ill be able to send it tuesday, as that is when i will get my cd back.

bill: i got it figured out.
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Mr.Bill on January 09, 2005, 11:03:36 AM
As do I Lowcrawler :-D

BTW theres a program called warzone starter, lets you get it running dif resolution (and helps with ai too I think) Nifty thing, bit buggy, but what isnt?
http://www.wz2100.de/downloads/wztools/War...arter_2.144.zip (http://www.wz2100.de/downloads/wztools/Warzone_Starter_2.144.zip)

you can get it there, thats the newest version Ive seen, Just unzip it and install, youll be set

EDIT: And a note on Gameplay, I played this game a little bit, but didnt get far. It looked fun, and the create your own unit thing was simple and fast, but I'd think it'd take a little getting used to. (like going from fps to rts, which it is :) )
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Anarki3x6 on January 09, 2005, 11:36:23 AM
games pretty fun, last night me zero and leader played over an hour long game... 99% of it was just me sittin there listening to music and teching :) got a bit boring after an hour tho :/
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: bacon_flaps on January 09, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
It's deceptively fun, I had uber mortar defense lines backed up by VTOL strike craft :D
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Isamil on January 09, 2005, 02:35:59 PM
To bad I can't find any servers....
Title: Warzone 2100
Post by: Leaderz0rz on January 10, 2005, 05:12:32 AM
lol anarki i didn't know what i was doing :( now i do so you can attack me :p