Overly Chatty Penguins

The Ready Room => General => Topic started by: Malibu Stacey on October 03, 2004, 01:59:50 PM

Title: Ze Nu Eye-konz
Post by: Malibu Stacey on October 03, 2004, 01:59:50 PM: So what they all about & what do they signify?
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Post by: Dark on October 03, 2004, 02:24:12 PM: penguin is a rs holder

that is about the only one i know of for sure

the LB one must be a higher up admin o_O
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Post by: Architeuthis on October 03, 2004, 02:42:51 PM: Worst thread title ever.

People with a reserved slot get the penguin, admins can get their own personal icon if they so want. If not, the normal admins get the usual green thingy and the rcon admins get the lightning bolt.
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Post by: Dirty Harry Potter on October 03, 2004, 02:50:14 PM: that lightning bolt needs to be remade....it's ugly as....as......*profanity*.

Why not make it light blue and make it have a thin egde around it.
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Post by: Clashen on October 03, 2004, 03:34:36 PM: If every admin will have his own icon it'll look so cluttered and noobish. Like a noob server with 19238 plugins :/
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Post by: Dark on October 03, 2004, 03:56:00 PM: Quote
If every admin will have his own icon it'll look so cluttered and noobish. Like a noob server with 19238 plugins :/
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i'ld have to agree with clashen on this
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Post by: Malibu Stacey on October 03, 2004, 04:29:46 PM: I agree with Clashen too plus the green admin icon is instantly recognisable as its been around since 1.0
I agree with DHP too. The Lightning is a bit o_O Should be more snazzy or jazzy or other words with double z's in them.
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Post by: Anarki3x6 on October 03, 2004, 06:34:08 PM: Quote
I agree with Clashen too plus the green admin icon is instantly recognisable as its been around since 1.0
I agree with DHP too. The Lightning is a bit o_O Should be more snazzy or jazzy or other words with double z's in them.
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couldnt have said it better myself

<3 the new penguins, normal admins should have green dealies and that lightning bolt is kind of dull :/
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Post by: GrayDuck on October 03, 2004, 07:06:12 PM: Yeah, what Anarki said....
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Post by: Malevolent on October 03, 2004, 07:33:13 PM: While one type of icon for admins would make it more recognizable, Red's lemon icon is hawt. If we do get rid of the custom icons, make it so the rcon admins keep their lightning bolts so, you can tell they have that access (but first make it nicer looking like already said).
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Post by: GrayDuck on October 03, 2004, 07:38:16 PM: One thing I forgot to add is I'm not sure if I like the penguin superseding the dev icon.

On one hand it makes it so that the nublets who play on LM aren’t like OMG – A DEV!!! HIHIHI. But on the other hand, playing with a dev is a definite treat – why hide their identity.
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Post by: LochNess on October 03, 2004, 07:38:36 PM: omg custom icons for everyone it would work so well i swear1!!
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Post by: Dark on October 03, 2004, 08:31:50 PM: that would be way to confusing and then we'ld be running too many plugins to make playing here any fun v_v
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Post by: Magmatron on October 03, 2004, 11:34:19 PM: I'm pretty sure it's just one plugin. That we are already running.
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Post by: zerwalter on October 04, 2004, 07:52:24 AM: I think we shouldn't have all of these custom icons. Why was it changed anyways? It was fine with admins simply having the green icons (or no icons) and anyone else having their respective icon. admin_who was sufficient to discover who had a reserve slot as well.

Just my two cents.
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Post by: fatty on October 04, 2004, 09:51:14 AM: yeah now people will be "WOW YOU HAVE 1 MORE PENGUIN OMG STACK"

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edit: "Just my 2 cents"
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Post by: Doobie Dan on October 04, 2004, 09:55:57 AM: Archi's icon owns you.

Just my two cents.
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Post by: Malibu Stacey on October 04, 2004, 10:17:35 AM: Quote
yeah now people will be "WOW YOU HAVE 1 MORE PENGUIN OMG STACK"

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People bitch about icon stack already even when its just vet & constie icons (which don't mean a thing but w/e). There will always be whining & the tux's look cool so keep them.
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Post by: LochNess on October 04, 2004, 11:10:42 AM: i do like this idea really, and i wasnt truely seroius about everyone having there own icons (but it would be cool). but i do think that with the "auth" command you should be able to turn the icon off, just like any other vet/constie/pt icon etc. I just like to do this sometimes because if one team has more icons than another it can cause some people to become upset, even if you arent stacking the teams but simply joining the one with less players. As of right now however auth doesnt turn it off. Not really extremely nessecary but a nice feature i think that should be added.
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Post by: Doobie Dan on October 06, 2004, 10:22:23 AM: I'm personally a big fan of the icons, keeps me from having to do admin_who all the damn time. The stacking problem does exist, but this covers up people's vet/constie icons, so THAT's a good thing for the "OMG STAX" nonsense. Also, with these icons and our "skills", people are going to see iconstacked teams losing a lot ;) so hopefully that will shut people up about iconstacking.

Also, it helps you see if an RSer is smurfity smurf smurfing.
Title: Ze Nu Eye-konz
Post by: Grimm on October 07, 2004, 12:14:16 AM: If everyone had their own custom icon, people would spend more time waiting to connect to the server as they download each individual icon. That might discourage people from joining, and although it would be nice to have a sense of individuality, all of the icons would look rather cluttered.
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 07, 2004, 06:26:05 AM: Yeah, I think that only admins should get icons. With RS icons (as much as I enjoy feeling special <3 ) it clutters up the scoreboard. I think the penguin would make a better admin icon, anyways :p
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Post by: Magmatron on October 07, 2004, 01:39:36 PM: Heh, I enjoy the penguin icon. Nothing like joining and seeing all those little penguins, showing how many of our RS holders play. I wouldn't worry about this downloading icons business though. I'm on a 22k, and I didn't even notice the download it went so fast. These icons are roughly 1.5kb in size each, and it's a one time deal. Servers with all kinds of crappy custom sounds are full, so I doubt people will be turned away by the prospect of spending 3 more seconds grabbing 4 or 5 icons.
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Post by: Grimm on October 07, 2004, 03:49:00 PM: The penguins are nice, and it really isn't too much of a problem to download the icons, but I get discouraged by servers that I need to download a bunch of small files because in most cases they're stupid sound effects and whatnot.
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Post by: Dark on October 07, 2004, 04:15:09 PM: downloading icons is fine by me

i just as grim stated hate downloading all the stupid sound files
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Post by: JHunz on October 08, 2004, 04:53:30 PM: I was the one who installed the new plugin, so I'll address the concerns I"ve seen here. First of all, let me say that the primary reason this new plugin was installed was because ServerOps was broken with b5 and has never been updated.
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that lightning bolt needs to be remade....it's ugly as....as......*profanity*.

Why not make it light blue and make it have a thin egde around it.
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Because I suck at art. Once I've plagiarized a spiffier one, I'll put that on instead.

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One thing I forgot to add is I'm not sure if I like the penguin superseding the dev icon.

On one hand it makes it so that the nublets who play on LM aren’t like OMG – A DEV!!! HIHIHI. But on the other hand, playing with a dev is a definite treat – why hide their identity.
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Actually, I've updated the plugin config such that any steamID that has a dev icon assigned to it currently will not be overriden with our penguin.

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i do like this idea really, and i wasnt truely seroius about everyone having there own icons (but it would be cool). but i do think that with the "auth" command you should be able to turn the icon off, just like any other vet/constie/pt icon etc. I just like to do this sometimes because if one team has more icons than another it can cause some people to become upset, even if you arent stacking the teams but simply joining the one with less players. As of right now however auth doesnt turn it off. Not really extremely nessecary but a nice feature i think that should be added.
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The auth command functionality exists in the AMX version of the plugin, but didn't make it into the metamod port (the author is primarily an AMX coder, and I presume he didn't know how to implement it in metamod)

As to those concerned with the size of the downloads, the largest icon we have on the server is 1.34 KB, the rest are around 7-800 bytes. On a 14.4k modem, you could download all of our icons 9 times within 30 seconds.
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Post by: Isamil on October 08, 2004, 05:10:57 PM: It still looks kind of stupid with tons of icons on the scoreboard.
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 09, 2004, 04:16:08 PM: Quote
Because I suck at art. Once I've plagiarized a spiffier one, I'll put that on instead.
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Take your pick: ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/satiagraha/lightningbig4.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/satiagraha/lightningbig3.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/satiagraha/lightningbig2.jpg)
Lightning 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/satiagraha/lightning4.bmp) Lightning 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/satiagraha/lightning3.bmp) Lightning 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/satiagraha/lightning2.bmp)

(Middle one is from Diablo 2 :ph34r: )

Edit: These are 10x10 bitmaps... If you want me to, I'll make a larger (16x16) transparency targas
Title: Ze Nu Eye-konz
Post by: Slink on October 09, 2004, 08:15:14 PM: if it would be possible to get a blue outline around #1, it would be, in my humble opinion, perfect.

just a thin blue line, that's all i'm asking.
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 09, 2004, 08:52:47 PM: How's this?

(http://server.confusionville.net/satiagraha/lightning.gif)
(http://server.confusionville.net/satiagraha/lightning.jpg)
Targa file (http://server.confusionville.net/satiagraha/lightning.gif)

It's now a 16x16 transparency targa
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Post by: JHunz on October 10, 2004, 02:39:38 AM: I uploaded a better icon today, check it out before you pass any judgements ;)

Oh, and Sati, the fugly one was actually based on one fo yours :p
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Post by: Slink on October 10, 2004, 03:32:43 AM: satiagraha, that's PERFECT! Exactly what i was invisioning. definetly gets my vote. beautiful work.
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Post by: lolfighter on October 10, 2004, 07:18:23 AM: Oooh yeah, I concur. That icon is BEAUTIFUL.
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Post by: Slink on October 10, 2004, 01:44:57 PM: Saw Lightning Blue's icon last night, i believe it's what Jhunz uploaded. Dang, it's a toss up. Lb's is nice as heck too, it's also some white lightning with a blue border, but it's got a lot more flair than sati's. I'd say Lb's has a lot more flair and style, because the lightning arc's much more than sati's. But it's a bit larger. Really stands out from the rest of the icons though. Hmm, dang. Well, either one would be absolutely great.
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Post by: Grimm on October 10, 2004, 10:03:54 PM: I like Satiagraha's icon, although I don't know what the one JHunz uploaded looks like.
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Post by: GrayDuck on October 10, 2004, 11:03:25 PM: I didn't like the 'new and improved' lightening icons at first (they seemed to large and took my by surprise). However, they have really grown on me. They are UBER Icons, only the VIPest of the VIPs may have them, they demand power and respect RAWR[/b][/size]!!!!!!! I say keep them as they are RIGHT NOW!

on a different note... the icons are still buggy. People get them who shouldn't as well as those who should have an icon not getting anything...
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Post by: Slink on October 11, 2004, 02:30:24 AM: hmm, grayduck's comment about uber vip's tripped someting in my head. i know some people like the green icons for admins, but they seem a little plain and boring to me. so how about this? take sati's pretty blue small lightning icon, and make normal admins have that. and then BIG SCARY RCON admins get the BIG SCARY LIGHTNING.

you know it'd be cool. you just know it.
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 11, 2004, 01:44:16 PM: What does LB's lightning look like? Is it larger than 16x16? I have yet to see it.
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Post by: sonic on October 11, 2004, 02:08:49 PM: The same as JHunz's. awesome :p
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Post by: Malevolent on October 11, 2004, 07:34:17 PM: And LB played yesterday (that's how we know). I simultaneously had a heart attack and played NS from the shock, but did surprisingly good given my condition.
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Post by: That Annoying Kid on October 12, 2004, 08:10:42 AM: LB actually played?! :blink:

I refuse to believe it v_v
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Post by: BobTheJanitor on October 12, 2004, 12:17:19 PM: I have somehow ended up with what I can only assume is Archi's icon (little blue-white squid thingy). Take it away, it is scareh!!!
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Post by: GrayDuck on October 12, 2004, 12:24:16 PM: Quote
I have somehow ended up with what I can only assume is Archi's icon (little blue-white squid thingy). Take it away, it is scareh!!!

hehehe.... SQUID --- suuuuuuuuure thats what it is
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Post by: A Boojum Snark on October 12, 2004, 12:34:17 PM: Baaad ducky, bad mind of yours! :p

Bob, it is a bug with the plugin, now and then the icons will get mixed up and given to incorrect people, but it always fixes itself after the next mapchange.
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Post by: Black Mage on October 13, 2004, 07:23:15 AM: but i like my blue icon!
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Post by: ANeM on October 14, 2004, 09:22:48 AM: Quote
Baaad ducky, bad mind of yours! :p

Bob, it is a bug with the plugin, now and then the icons will get mixed up and given to incorrect people, but it always fixes itself after the next mapchange.
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Indeed =/
I got a Green Admin icon the other day. It was unfortunate that it was only a bug.. I kinda hoped it wasn't..
Oh well.. maybe one day I'll finally get my chance..
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Post by: Isamil on October 17, 2004, 09:37:35 AM: A few days ago I saw 2 people join the server and both get RCON icons. I don't really think I ever saw any real RCON admins on.
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Post by: Malevolent on October 17, 2004, 08:03:31 PM: Talesin was on today. LB was on a couple of days ago. Isa, you just miss out on the good stuff.
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 18, 2004, 01:33:10 PM: So can anyone show me what LB's lightning icon looks like? I havn't seen it yet.
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Post by: That Annoying Kid on October 18, 2004, 01:50:33 PM: I had a chance to get on the server yesterday and the icons add a nice polish, especially the penquin for the slotters.

Anyone know how long they take download on 56.k? thats my only concern is having to download alot of stuff will discourage people from playing
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 18, 2004, 05:00:26 PM: TAK, these targa files are almost nothing. Many of them can be downloaded on cable instantaneously. From what I've heard, it's about the same on a 56k.
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Post by: lolfighter on October 19, 2004, 02:55:31 AM: Aye. Get downloaded rather fast. I believe most people, when they see a download start, think "ok, if it's only that file", then if more start loading, they reach for the disconnect. But before they manage to disconnect, the downloads will be done, and then I guess they'll stay.
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Post by: Malevolent on October 19, 2004, 04:08:21 AM: Yeah, it takes no time on 56k (well some time since it can't be don the exact second you start).
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Post by: Doobie Dan on October 19, 2004, 10:05:44 AM: OMG VINNIE TURN IT OFF MEIN EYES!
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Post by: Satiagraha on October 19, 2004, 01:52:03 PM: Quote
OMG VINNIE TURN IT OFF MEIN EYES!
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What?
:help:
Title: Ze Nu Eye-konz
Post by: Malevolent on October 19, 2004, 02:42:07 PM: Maybe he was having a flashback of bad childhood memories.