Overly Chatty Penguins
The Ready Room => General => Topic started by: Wither on May 28, 2004, 08:36:55 AM
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Map voting has been in what...2 days? Every time a map pops up 1 player doesn't like, a map vote starts. We might as well rename the server The Lunixmonster! Eclipse 24/7!
I'm seriously getting sick of it, last night we had 3 map changes within 3 minutes from nancy -> eclipse -> nancy. I can't see who starts them, admin_cancelvote doesn't work on them and yeah..gg. Please, cut it out.
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i too am getting sick of it, ESPECIALLY when it pops up during the game, and people are say changing from bite to parasite or parasite to bite, and oops u just voted to change the map, but u are owning it up, and having fun. it needs to be taken out, or changed somehow, to which only admins can do, and only when they ask a server, not just making it appear out of nowhere and map getting changed cause everyone is swittching from pistol to LMG. (btw, i was there when the nancy/eclipse/nancy, it was annoying, majority of vets/cons or whatever are the ones who do it, IE: kilgore)
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please use you, in stead of 'u'. that truncation really grates the eye.
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I'll let ya in on a little secret wither: admin_abort_vote. I think that's what you're looking for. And yeah, to people who like to swap the map constantly: Don't. The mapcycle is there for a reason, and that reason isn't so you can switch the maps around with abandon. If everyone on the server really wants to play a certain map, that's fine. But switch at the very START of the round. Nothing like getting 30 minutes into a game and having the losing team start a vote to switch the map. That's poor poor sportsmanship and has NO place on this server.
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So why don't you just make map votes like kick votes? You know where its
ADMIN COMMAND:(someone) used command admin_vote_map (mapname)
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i like this idea, this way we could play differet maps more often. Plus it gives NS a little of a CS twist :D
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Thanks for the info, I shall remove reserved slot holders right to vote til we all figure out when it's good to use it and when it's not. <_<
This was the whole reason I made it RS only in the first place, really sad that it's being abused. :help:
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I can understand map votes being done during mid game, which can make me angry but i mean comeon? So what a RS'er maeks a map vote... if it wins then obviously the people IN the server WANT to play that map and don't want to play the map that thier currently on. I really don't see how its being abused when the players in the server want the map. Take mineshaft for example. Almost everyone is sick of that horrible map, sometimes ill do a vote for hera, origin,eclipse, viel, or tanith. It usually ends up winning. I think LB should put the voting back in, but fix the voting system to make the map win if 90% of the people want the map changed. Also disable voting for maps after 5 minutes in a game to prevent the mid-game voting. v_v
thats my solution to your :help: LB
:)
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As far as I'm concerned, the RS members should be responsible enough to use this function in the way it's meant to - such is one of the many criteria for bcoming a RS member.
But as we all can see, such isn't really the case. Does anybody else remember when having a reserve slot actually meant something about the holder...?
*sighhh* I guess LB's solution is the only viable one, until the RS playerbase gets more intelligent. :(
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Don't worry, your friendly admins will be around to change the maps for your convenience at all the appropriate times. ;)
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Now I can't log on early morning and votemap ayumi to watch catbus....(true I could do it in LAN, but by being on the server people might join)
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:( I only start a vote when everyone is complaining about the map.. I have only voted 10-15 times since I have been RS
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I know one problem with the voting is people are constantly switching weapons, and the vote becomes inaccurate. Would it be possible to edit the plugin to use slot5 and slot6? Doesn't solve the over-use problem, but would make it accurate.
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Ugh..
And eclipse..
I personally think eclipse is a horrible map, but on to the point
Votemap quickly becomes useless when you can see people's responses, because its almost impossible to see the message on all that white text.. I've had to use one of the other forms of say to forward the message.. maybe disable showing the individual choices?
And what do you mean "has been in 2 days" .. its been enabled for a long time.. or did I miss some update to ns that added it...
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Has map voting been nerfed on the CS server as well?
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And what do you mean "has been in 2 days" .. its been enabled for a long time.. or did I miss some update to ns that added it...
Go read the thread in the suggestions forum about co_ voting.
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:( I only start a vote when everyone is complaining about the map.. I have only voted 10-15 times since I have been RS
And the #1 map that gets changed is....
MINESHAFT
LB, you need to either take it out of the rotation or Replace it with a better map.
PPL seem to be sick of that map and its a real bitch when everyone keeps voting a new map or bitching to the admins to change it.
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Majin, I have an old link for ya:
http://www.lunixmonster.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=190 (http://www.lunixmonster.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=190)
Thus, mineshaft.
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Haha, I love blunt responses. Leaves no room for argument or misinterpretation.
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I was there Withah when that happened and yeah, it was considerably an annoyance, thanks Bob for that little tool command; let's hope what happened doesnt occur again or so often.
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Yeah, this is why it was originally like, gone and stuff. People continually make votes for maps they wanna play, and then people a lot of the time vote inaccurately, causing whoever started the vote to go "oh, they voted 2 without seeing it, better start another one!".
The timelimit is what, 15 minutes? 15 minutes of mineshaft isn't that bad, heck if no one wants to play just go screw around for 15 minutes then whichever team is losing try and have a last stand. Good solution if no one wants to play the map and no one around has the power to change the map. I have also enjoyed mineshaft to come on a few times because it cycles out players and *sometimes* it gets low enough for us to go play a CO map, but usually towards the end of the round the server is full again. GG me :(.
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maybe you should reevalute who has the maturity and common sense to hold a RS or make two sets of RS one with just a slot and another with limited admin options
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Has map voting been nerfed on the CS server as well?
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Probably, it uses the same permission levels as the NS server. However, you can just go jump in and check. I can't actually check for you, as I've got a different set of permissions.
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As far as I can tell he left the cs server's adminmod alone.
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Well never mind then, there be your answer. Go votemap fy_iceworld all day long. Except it won't work! BWAHAHAHAHA!
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I particularly like the way AMX voting is done. I think it would work extremely well on Lunixmonster, perhaps there's an Adminmod plugin for it (or perhaps AMX could be run just for the one AMX plugin).
The way it works is, 20 seconds or so before the mapchange, a menu pops up with a few random maps (5-6?). People then vote on the one they want the next map to be. The currently winning map is displayed, reducing the everybody-voted-for-different-maps-so-no-map-won syndrome.
This works in this situation because it ONLY occures at the END of the round, therefore no rapid map changes. The maps presented for vote are also RANDOM, so while there's lots of choice (due to the number of random maps selected for voting), you CANNOT play the same map over and over.
It does have a downside though. Because the winning map is displayed, people have a tendency to vote for the winning map. So usually whatever the first person votes for ends up winning. This would easily be solved by displaying either the top TWO maps, or displaying the votes EACH map has.
Anyhow, it's a great system and has worked wonders for us over at Kustom Kettles. Keeps the server nice and fresh, and lets people switch to Combat when they want some.
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I want combat switchability to be an option, I think combat would be fun with the LM crowd, just like CS is
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I particularly like the way AMX
We don't talk like that in here, bai!
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