Well technically you ARE ban evading...
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Creating an account to make a genuine unban request seems acceptable to me.
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Yes, and you evaded bans on the NS Forums what, 6 times?
You're hardly the right person to offer opinions on such a thing. :)
When you ban someone, that's like telling them to f*** off and never come back, right? It restricts their access to view the page, by account or IP or whatever. When they're banned they lose the right to post on that forum and are clearly not welcome by the people that banned them. So how is coming back and breaking another rule supposed to change someone's mind?
Well technically you ARE ban evading...
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Creating an account to make a genuine unban request seems acceptable to me.
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Yes, and you evaded bans on the NS Forums what, 6 times?
You're hardly the right person to offer opinions on such a thing. :)
When you ban someone, that's like telling them to f*** off and never come back, right? It restricts their access to view the page, by account or IP or whatever. When they're banned they lose the right to post on that forum and are clearly not welcome by the people that banned them. So how is coming back and breaking another rule supposed to change someone's mind?
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And yet I was still unbanned from the NS Forums by doing what CWAG is trying to do, so I think it puts me in prime position to offer opinions on such a thing. I have no idea how CWAG got banned, but when he comes back months later apologizing for what he did and asking for an unban I think the matter to focus on is whether there's merit in his request, not that he's technically ban evading to make his request.
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You were wrongfully unbanned, i must admit, although, who am i to second guess a person who'll unban someone who's been banned more times than that guy that spams images of dead black people and makes racist jokes every few months.
Earlier today I saw a locked match server where there was a scrim in progress. One of the teams was some clan I'd never heard of before. The other team was a bunch of people with variations on the name "Communist With A Gun." Like "Communist With a Gum" or "Communist With a Bum." I saw it soon after I read this thread so I found it very strange :blink:
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there is like a petition going on the ns forums to unban cwag you probably saw their avatars/sigs before the forums went down. so i can imagine people who are fanatical about cwag being unbanned using a form of his name
Earlier today I saw a locked match server where there was a scrim in progress. One of the teams was some clan I'd never heard of before. The other team was a bunch of people with variations on the name "Communist With A Gun." Like "Communist With a Gum" or "Communist With a Bum." I saw it soon after I read this thread so I found it very strange :blink:
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there is like a petition going on the ns forums to unban cwag you probably saw their avatars/sigs before the forums went down. so i can imagine people who are fanatical about cwag being unbanned using a form of his name
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heh a petition will do no good, only asking nemo nicely will. I've even asked CWAG if he would allow the admins to release information on his banning to third partys. Cwag has tried to talk to nemo but he seems to get constantly avoided or frowned upon, which is in sharp contrast to his cheerful self. CWAG does have some shady circumstances with his banning and I would love to see the ban ticket. Regardless he did spend the time to come here and apologize so why question. Cwag was fun to play with on the lm, but that was a loong time ago. I've also seen my share of "leave him banned" and the "I have an influence over a moderators decision" avatars so the sides are even, I've seen an unbann forlorn with a skulk and a southern cross >_<
o_O v_v
After all this I really can't see him behaving badly if he were un-banned.
The NS community is, as far as I can see, in no position to be tossing out well known members for, IMO, shady reasoning. He had apologized multiple times, and has a decent sized "un-ban movement" which speaks for it's self.
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Half the reason the "unban" movement is even there is because of the fact that whenever there was a even halfway religious post, thread, or person, he flamed it/them to death, constantly. If he honestly means sorry, fine, but frankly, on the ns.com forums, he deserved that ban a lot earlier than he got it. Hell, he called me, my religion, and anyone involved with it "Pedophiles", "Morons", "Liberals", "Bleeding Hearts", and several other derogative terms, because of stereotypes or the hope of a laugh. Nem0 doesn't want to talk to CWaG because of the fact that so many people are trying to get him unbanned, and it WILL NEVER HAPPEN. No one has ever, or will ever, be unbanned by them, especially with the warning system they have.
If you think he got the short end of the stick, check out my reason for a 1 week temp susp- calling someone a "12 year old idiot who couldn't use a program easier than his OS". For all the things CWaG said about MANY people all over the forums, if they could, Nem0 probably would have thrust him into a pit of angry Christians/Muslims/Jews/Hindus/Shintohs and more.
what you say is simply not true. I think the worst thing I've ever said to you was I didn't like how religion turned people into puppets, and also, Nemesis does not feel that way because we correspond frequently over email. Also, we emailed me asking to discuss the term of an unban on IRC.
Please dont lie quan.
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Don't lie? Hey, I forgive more than most people, but frankly, I'd like to go and search up all the things you said about Christianity if their still around. You said some VERY hateful things, that frankly, got me in a uproar, along with most of my Christian AND non Christian closer friends- because frankly, even then, saying it turns people into puppets is like saying that Government gives people money. Sure, it happens once in a while, but generally, they do the opposite.
It seems though you were banned before I came along. In my opinion I think everyone deserves a chance to redemption...Humans were meant to make mistakes eventually.
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But well over 100 mistakes, all over a 2-3 month period? Thats a bit excessive.
Hey CWAG. :D I don't see what the big deal is. CWAG's a nice guy.
Perhaps a probation or something is in order? If breaks even one small rule in the first month, he's banned again? It can't hurt...
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Hi, just a few things, this will be my last post.
@Quan: No, you think my opinions are insults. Its my opinion that religion is a method to control people. If that offends you I am sorry, but I am not saying "Quan you're a tool for having faith in something"
@U235: I don't know who that other person was, but there is a difference I am not asking for a chance at anything, I don't even play NS anymore. I just wanted to apollogize.
@CF: I never see you on MSN anymore :(
Bye
@CF: I never see you on MSN anymore :(
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I'm still around, just always set away. ;) IM me some time, if I respond, then I'm there.
It seems though you were banned before I came along. In my opinion I think everyone deserves a chance to redemption...Humans were meant to make mistakes eventually.
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But well over 100 mistakes, all over a 2-3 month period? Thats a bit excessive.
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Well that's how Humans function.
It seems though you were banned before I came along. In my opinion I think everyone deserves a chance to redemption...Humans were meant to make mistakes eventually.
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But well over 100 mistakes, all over a 2-3 month period? Thats a bit excessive.
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Well that's how Humans function.
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Not online. There are quite a few who online I've never seen make a "mistake", because they always think before they do. I'm guilty of not sometimes, but I don't do as bad as that.
CWaG: Yeah, I do take them as insults. How am I not supposed to take it as a insult when you call me a sheep?
If all you want is forgiveness, and not to be unbant from the server, then you have my forgiveness. Turn the other cheek, love thy enemy, all that jazz.
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Hell, unban him. Most of the people here don't even know why he's banned, which should tell you something.
If all you want is forgiveness, and not to be unbant from the server, then you have my forgiveness. Turn the other cheek, love thy enemy, all that jazz.
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Hell, unban him. Most of the people here don't even know why he's banned, which should tell you something.
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1) He isn't actually asking for an unbant.
2) Just because ppl don't know why someone was bant doesn't mean it wasn't a valid reason.
If all you want is forgiveness, and not to be unbant from the server, then you have my forgiveness. Turn the other cheek, love thy enemy, all that jazz.
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Hell, unban him. Most of the people here don't even know why he's banned, which should tell you something.
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1) He isn't actually asking for an unbant.
2) Just because ppl don't know why someone was bant doesn't mean it wasn't a valid reason.
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I'd love to be unbanned and play with you all again but I don't know if I'd be any regular, as I hardly play, if any at all with NS.
Unban if you like but I really don't see it happening.
If all you want is forgiveness, and not to be unbant from the server, then you have my forgiveness. Turn the other cheek, love thy enemy, all that jazz.
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Hell, unban him. Most of the people here don't even know why he's banned, which should tell you something.
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1) He isn't actually asking for an unbant.
2) Just because ppl don't know why someone was bant doesn't mean it wasn't a valid reason.
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No, I was asking for an unbant for him, because he was a blast to play with back in the day.
And, that's not entirely true. If he had been consistantly evil enough, the community would have know the reason. As it stands, few people really know, so it can't have been that big an issue.
^^
I was running thru some old screenies from the lunixmonster and a couple of them show off cwags fun to play with side. I will find some of the better ones, but you get a cookie if you can identify the map / what we were doing.
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You guys jumped out the window again didn't you :angry:
Acctually I think I was in that game... I remeber the bit about the sensories.
Lost, obviously.
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How do you tell the map from a black screenshot?
How do you tell the map from a black screenshot?
I suppose you had to have known the 1.04 version of Lost to know the secret of the skybox image, as it doesn't seem to have been visible from any window on the map in any later version.
TAK didn't add the "SUYF" to the image. Take a look at \ns\gfx\env\lost_lf.tga (if you have a program capable of viewing targa bitmaps).
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Ya, but in the 2.0 version where you could jump out the window by abusing the /stuck command, the suyf was visable once you were outside in the space courtyard thingy. That's how I knew they jumped out the window... That and I remember the time when window exploiting was all the rage on lunixmonster... If I remember correctly, that was part of the reason CWAG was banned in the first place... and TAK ran real close to the buzzsaw too.