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April 21, 2004, 08:21:37 AM
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Well, it's not really that my marines are having a higher k:d ratio. It's mainly been that we've found little resistance.

I always do the old "Point A is their hive, rush the nearest res node from it and attack". After a few battles, they either

A ) waste res on defenses there

B ) Continue to rush it ignoring the rest of the map

C ) Give up on it and usually the game (if we can't keep them away from outside our hive, we can't do anything)

D ) Both A & B

The only time this really fails is when my marines are slow to push and they turn the tables. Then I manage a shotty rush on a hive to put them back where they belong, and then we resume advancement.

Yesterday I was losing alot though (partially to the fact my headset only worked in the left ear, and my mic worked 20% of the time...), and I was noticing that it was mainly b/c I couldn't communicate enough with my marines to push their hive more.


Addendum: I'm not on many people's lists, I guess I need to step it up, or stay out of the chair.  :huh:
« Last Edit: April 21, 2004, 08:58:52 AM by [mmi]rad4Christ »
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: why do i have to be a stone? i dont want to be a stone... i want to do some harm.... can i be a exploding stone at least?

April 21, 2004, 10:01:06 AM
Reply #101

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I'll say that you have turned into a fine commander now :)

My list right now would just be saltzbad, rad and legionnaired, very few other people seem to comm regulary enough for me to get a feel for them or never comm at all anymore.

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April 21, 2004, 10:09:37 AM
Reply #102

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in no order

goldleader
rad
goldleader
saltz
goldleader
hd
goldleader
crack
goldleader
grill

erh.. i'm sure i missed someone... if i did, i apologize.

also!

goldleader!!!!
"I don't have to know an answer, I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without any purpose, which is the way it really is as far as I can tell. It doesn't frighten me."
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April 21, 2004, 12:06:08 PM
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in no order

goldleader
rad
goldleader
saltz
goldleader
hd
goldleader
crack
goldleader
grill

erh.. i'm sure i missed someone... if i did, i apologize.

also!

goldleader!!!!

well i know this is for a fact that you <3 goldleader cause you told us one game we were losing that you hold him to a higher standard
« Last Edit: April 21, 2004, 12:06:47 PM by Dark »
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er.. which doohickey is the capacitor? and not a FLUX capacitor right?!? cuz then i'd have to put it in my Dolorian..
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April 21, 2004, 02:39:21 PM
Reply #104

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imho, he only loses when he CHOOSES to lose for his AMUSEMENT. that's IT!!

*holds onto plushie doll of GL for dear life*
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April 21, 2004, 04:02:36 PM
Reply #105

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I had gl comm in a pug once, he was awesome.

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April 21, 2004, 04:56:56 PM
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I had gl comm in a pug once, he was awesome.
that's RIGHT!! and dont' you forget it!! ;)
"I don't have to know an answer, I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without any purpose, which is the way it really is as far as I can tell. It doesn't frighten me."
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April 21, 2004, 05:43:27 PM
Reply #107

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rad4Christ,Apr 21 2004, 08:21 AM] Yesterday I was losing alot though (partially to the fact my headset only worked in the left ear, and my mic worked 20% of the time...), and I was noticing that it was mainly b/c I couldn't communicate enough with my marines to push their hive more.

 

Bah, you're on my list for sure bay-beh. The reason for most smattering marine losses is marines unable to follow simple orders - and I mean really simple things, without getting lost. Theres a load of games where by looking at the players, you can be fairly certain this will be the case and hence an unwinnable game. Not that it stops me from trying, but its usually just an exercise in frustration.

And then you'll only win if the aliens are really aweful Skulks (and even then usually not).
« Last Edit: April 21, 2004, 05:44:27 PM by SaltzBad »

April 21, 2004, 07:55:08 PM
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rad4Christ,Apr 21 2004, 08:21 AM]
Addendum: I'm not on many people's lists, I guess I need to step it up, or stay out of the chair.  :huh:
You're on mine :lol:

Thanks for some awesomely memorable comming experiences


Also, Niteowls list seems to be a good one
« Last Edit: April 21, 2004, 07:58:02 PM by Torque2k7 »
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April 21, 2004, 07:57:36 PM
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rad4Christ,Apr 21 2004, 09:21 AM] Addendum: I'm not on many people's lists, I guess I need to step it up, or stay out of the chair.  :huh:
NOOOOOO! You can't stop!

*adds him*
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April 22, 2004, 01:42:42 PM
Reply #110

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Rad, you're really a very good Comm. Keep up the awesome work.

I've been comming a lot lately, anyone seen any improvements in me, or anything I can do better?

April 22, 2004, 01:57:26 PM
Reply #111

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Tank you. But I'm losing more lately... Although just had a game today on Nothing where I picked up the chair after someone left, and we went on to victory. Fun stuff, that and HD was spectating aliens for Tk's before rejoining the team (i wonder if he used insider info)...
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: why do i have to be a stone? i dont want to be a stone... i want to do some harm.... can i be a exploding stone at least?

April 22, 2004, 02:10:34 PM
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well i'm touched none of you said anything of me!


and i've lead meny marines to victory without the use of voice comm, apart from maybe screaming PHASE.



edit, no one puts any faith in the "DEFEND TARGET" command, i find it works very well with all the marines in squad 1
« Last Edit: April 22, 2004, 02:11:25 PM by Seth »
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April 22, 2004, 02:36:55 PM
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I like your rate my comming thing you have, legion :D

I haven't played on LM in ages, i find there is always someone else who wants to comm so i just let them :| I need to do it more often it seems as only rad and saltz seem to know i comm :(

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April 22, 2004, 02:49:46 PM
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mouse is a cancer to marine teams, when he joins rine, its a insta-win for aliens. he once made rad AND holy_devil lose consecutive games.  :o

i think holy_devil is learning the ways of the COMMMMRAAAGE. niteowl has taught him well.


new list:

rad4christ
holy_devil
saltzbad
gold_leader
seth
legion
any oldfogie
mr ben, but only had him as comm ~6 times


and...
BLACK MAGE OMG COMM HAX!!!!!one

April 22, 2004, 03:56:40 PM
Reply #115

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lets see i've had a lot of different heck i've commed only when people wouldn't jump in the chair and let me tell you i by far am not a good com i have like 1 win and an uncountable number of losses :(

anyways here is my new list of favorite LM coms

saltzbad
rad
seth
nightowl
hd
goldleader
legion
nooblet (haven't seen him in a while though)
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er.. which doohickey is the capacitor? and not a FLUX capacitor right?!? cuz then i'd have to put it in my Dolorian..
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April 22, 2004, 05:51:18 PM
Reply #116

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rad4Christ,Apr 22 2004, 01:57 PM] Tank you. But I'm losing more lately... Although just had a game today on Nothing where I picked up the chair after someone left, and we went on to victory. Fun stuff, that and HD was spectating aliens for Tk's before rejoining the team (i wonder if he used insider info)...
Aaaaak, before I'm forced to strangulate you, stop worrying about losses. They're public games - unless you threw a perfectly good win from your team in the wind, don't fret yourself. You can gain comming experience and habit in publics, but win/losses mean nothing at all.

How many times have you seen an all-elec strat win? I'm sure you've witnessed it a bunch of times - usually the commander said maybe 'ogm guys hold on to double' the whole round and the team runs around and kills every thing they see (And thats why god loves marines. Erhm.) - including resnodes, chambers and Gorges. If a bunch of marines own up the early game, nobody can lose unless you never even spend your ressources.

Then on the other hand, theres a ton of games you just can't ever win because they barely take off from the ground - they're usually the ones where a few smart guys run off in a random direction, and either get pwned and now you're down to half your team for the initial rush, or your base gets overrun. Best example is the guys that will run into Miasma walkway at the start of an ns_lost round, getting bitchslapped in the walkway and at the same time letting a nice little Skulkrush walk across docking wing :/

Its either that, or they just suck. But somehow, odds seem to be better with cooperative but sucky teams than the other way around - when a player that rates himself good gets frustrated, he just keeps running around alone trying to prove to himself that he's not the suck. A 'team' of these guys is entirely useless (unlike the ones that actually rule, and/or fight really crappy aliens).

So anyways, the percentage of games where commanding is the deciding factor is small - some are free wins, and you can test the brutality of different tactics at best - others are definite losses. A small percentage can finally be hard games that you can either turn or lose, down to a few minute decisions.

Regardless, if you want some a bit more intense commanding exp, try pugs. Be grunt for a few first though - you're definitely a skilled enough commander, but not sure if you've seen competitive 6v6 in action yet.

April 23, 2004, 01:53:11 PM
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April 23, 2004, 02:24:08 PM
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well i'm touched none of you said anything of me!


and i've lead meny marines to victory without the use of voice comm, apart from maybe screaming PHASE.



edit, no one puts any faith in the "DEFEND TARGET" command, i find it works very well with all the marines in squad 1
Pshh, you were mentioned plenty of times in the first couple of pages.  I think its  an accepted fact more then anything now that you can comm ANY marines out of ANY situation.  I especially liked your "ignore-messhall then siege the hell out of it later" strat the other day that totally kicked ass in ns_nancy.  Every time I see something totally brilliant like that, I get inspired to carbon copy it and exploit it 19810958 times, expect to see a repeat!

Anyway, you hardly comm anymore.  You need to commwhore to get on the lists!

Also, how the hell do you get defend target to work?!?!  I know if you click on it for several hours you will eventually get lucky, but you seem to get it on your first try!  You must have aimbot. :o
« Last Edit: April 23, 2004, 02:24:51 PM by Sancho »

April 23, 2004, 02:42:46 PM
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OMG comm orders aimbotz!

Crack used to be able to do that perfectly too. He could always get defend target, weld target, and even the ever elusive 'enemies nearby' waypoint. MAGIC!

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