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Title: Killing eggs
Post by: SlickWill on April 03, 2005, 07:51:45 AM

Is it better to unload all clips and knife, or just knife?  Combo of lmg/knife, pistol/knife.  I heard that just knifing is the fastest.  Or does it matter what lvl weapons.  Btw, does weapon lvl affect knife damage?

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: That Annoying Kid on April 03, 2005, 07:56:47 AM

I just see an egg and try and drain as much damage into it as possible. If I recall correctly upgrading weapons does not increase knife damage. Something to consider when attempting to knife an egg is a) what are they egging to b) how long have they been egged?


If you see LB in a hive as an egg ~5:00, kill the egg, you will make rines happy  :D

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Manta on April 03, 2005, 09:06:59 AM

It's best to try to finish the egg off as quickly as possible. If you pull out a knife to start, you can only guess at how long it's been gestating, unless you saw it egg. The most you'll be able to hope for is that it won't pop out of the egg as a higher lifeform. Just unload and finish it off with a knife if you have to.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Dark on April 03, 2005, 09:19:06 AM

ya it is best not to knife the egg untill it has been shot enough (at least in your mind to recommend knifing it)

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: SlickWill on April 03, 2005, 09:38:36 AM

I was asking for definative numbers you know?  Like:  lvl 1 and pistol plus 2 knife for egg is slower/faster than just knife.  I know you want to kill it as fast as possible  >_< .

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Manta on April 03, 2005, 09:52:59 AM

Shooting it with anything is faster than just knifing it.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: 2_of_8 on April 03, 2005, 09:58:35 AM

I've seen marines in clan matches empty 2 pistol clips, then fire a few LMG rounds (10-20 or so) and it's done. This way, you still have about 30 bullets free to deal with a skulk that comes your way.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Isamil on April 03, 2005, 10:00:45 AM

An egg can take a full LMG clip.  If I see an egg next to a res node I'l know its a gorge and wait for it to hatch.  Then I kill it when it has less life.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: lolfighter on April 03, 2005, 10:09:12 AM

I'll unload my lmg into an egg as soon as I see it. If at longer ranges, pistol first. If I close to melee, knife. This is because I absolutely hate having a Fade or Onos hatch from the egg and escape or kill me. I don't know if the knife does damage the fastest, but you'll have to close to melee first, while the lmg can do damage right away. Factoring that in, the lmg is far more effective unless you round a corner and run right into an egg.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: pardzh on April 03, 2005, 10:24:24 AM

Put a full LMG clip into it, followed by your pistol.

It's guaranteed to work every time, sixty percent of the time.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: duherman on April 03, 2005, 10:33:07 AM

I always finish my whole clip of lmg on it then knife or pistol. But one time I didn't do it fast enough and a onos came out of the egg, you can probably guess the next part.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: lolfighter on April 03, 2005, 10:38:01 AM

You danced and became the BEST of friends?

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: 2_of_8 on April 03, 2005, 10:52:22 AM

Well, if you think about what's faster, just compare it with killing a res node.
Using LMG to kill a res node takes 250 bullets, fired in 25 seconds + ~12 seconds of reload, while using a knife takes 56.4.

PS, Niteowl, or whoever made that unofficial NS manual with the damage calculator, include an "egg" target.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: DarkScythe on April 03, 2005, 11:43:21 AM

it's best to do as much damage as u can because, like they said, u don't know how long it's been egging

example: i ran into cargo (on veil) and saw an egg on the ground
i bumrushed it with my LMG
by the time my LMG clip was down, i switched to my pistol and out popped a fade
he ran into a corner, but i followed him and finished off the fade with the pistol

no early fade for aliens  ^_^

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: [JFF]Kirby on April 03, 2005, 12:12:26 PM

welll i like taking a piece of bread, cutting out the center, and then frying an egg in the hole... even though.. i only usually do it while im camping...at home i mostly just like them scrambled with salt and pepper...

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Rath on April 03, 2005, 01:19:33 PM

What i dont like is that you cant kill full hp aliens when they are getting upgrades.  I was in a corner getting ready to ninja  a pg, and this onos stops right in front of me and starts to evolve an upgrade.  So I fire away with my lmg(level 2) and he got done before I could kill him.  >_<

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Necrosis on April 03, 2005, 01:53:07 PM

I prefer just to knife.

Why?

Because if they have a mic, or if they're a talkative typer, they'll be spamming like mad about how they're being knifed.

If you're lucky, someone might come back to the hive, which is less pressure elsewhere. It also means other alien players cant hear properly.. mmm.. psychology..


If you want to KILL the egg tho... just shoot it.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: 2_of_8 on April 03, 2005, 01:57:18 PM

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I prefer just to knife.

Why?

Because if they have a mic, or if they're a talkative typer, they'll be spamming like mad about how they're being knifed.

If you're lucky, someone might come back to the hive, which is less pressure elsewhere. It also means other alien players cant hear properly.. mmm.. psychology..


If you want to KILL the egg tho... just shoot it.

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You're crazy, Necrosis :)
Next time I'm getting knifed by you, I'll sit there quietly, hatch out and kill you with spit. Your plan will fail >:D

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Manta on April 03, 2005, 02:08:09 PM

But now he knows your plan, so your plan will fail.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: [JFF]Kirby on April 03, 2005, 02:13:22 PM

except now he knows that necrosis knows his plan.. so he cant fail..

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Diablus on April 03, 2005, 02:16:03 PM

I find picking it up and throwing it into a pit of death easiest.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: lolfighter on April 03, 2005, 04:26:43 PM

Well, I told this story earlier in IRC, so I might as well tell it again. First off, if you read this, no hard feelings mr manatee. I was laughing far, far too much to be mad at you in any way. After all, the game is about fun, and I HAD fun, even if it was at your expense. :lol:


I was marine, in the spawnqueue, spectating mr manatee. I saw him run up to an egg in a hive room and start knifing it. I just managed to see the Gorge pop out of it before I respawned, so I immediately head in that direction in case the Gorge managed to get the hive building first. While I'm heading there I watch the corner of my screen for the kill icon, but nothing happens. Just as I start to believe that the Gorge got away, I see the kill - only it's the Gorge spitkilling mr manatee! I stay on course towards the hive, see that it's going up and head outside again for a PG. One built PG later we rush the hive with a mixture of lmgs and shotguns, but as we start shooting it aliens MC in and kill us. We try attacking it again, but the aliens get a firm hold on it, and some minutes later we lose the game. All because mr manatee wanted to knife the egg instead of lmg-ing it to death.

Don't you see it? Knifing eggs loses games! Don't knife eggs!

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Mr.Ben on April 03, 2005, 05:14:14 PM

Knifing an egg, especially in 3.0 isn't the best idea, it could be a gestating skulk and in that case you'll never drop it before it gets it's upgrade and eats your face. Generally the best bet is to just shoot it with all your bullets. If it's an unimportant egg (skulk upgrading, gorge devolving etc) and a skulk turns up then kill the skulk instead, if it's an important egg (gorge evolving, rt, lerk etc etc) then killing it is far more important than dropping that skulk.

You'll have to use your situational awareness and knowledge of how the game is progressing to make the call, but if theres an egg in a hive at 3:40 and you're there, don't get cocky.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: lolfighter on April 03, 2005, 06:09:32 PM

If it's just an upgrade, you'll be extremely lucky to even close the distance before it finishes. Killing it is just downright impossible with the knife.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: 2_of_8 on April 03, 2005, 06:21:49 PM

If it's a skulk upgrade, I'd say it's better to put a few pistol shots in to weaken him. Then, when he hatches, he'll need less LMG bullets than when you'll use LMG from the start on the egg.
Meh.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Doobie Dan on April 03, 2005, 08:15:58 PM

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welll i like taking a piece of bread, cutting out the center, and then frying an egg in the hole... even though.. i only usually do it while im camping...at home i mostly just like them scrambled with salt and pepper...

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so what does the bread accomplish?  do you butter it on the bottom like it's grilled cheese?  is it supposed to keep the egg together?  as an avid eater of eggs (AEOE), i MUST learn about this new strange method.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Mac on April 03, 2005, 08:35:49 PM

isn't that called toad in a hole or something?

topic-related.. i've killed only one egg. i came around a corner and saw it.. didn't know how long it'd been there, and didn't want a fade or onos or something to pop out (or anything else really cause anything can kill me with relative ease) so i kinda freaked out and shot spastically at it, then hacked at it, and then breathed rather hard and reloaded praying i didn't attract unwanted attention with my barrage of bullets.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: duherman on April 04, 2005, 07:40:10 AM

I've never killed a egg with a knife, that how noob I am. All the attempts I made would always end up as a higher life-form coming out.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Mac on April 04, 2005, 11:30:53 AM

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I've never killed a egg with a knife, that how noob I am. All the attempts I made would always end up as a higher life-form coming out.

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Never had that happen to me when I see eggs. Usually just a skulk getting an ability or something. Would be pretty nerve racking hacking at an egg and then an onos bursts out of it. It's scary enough running backwards down a hall shooting at a chasing onos.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Vitamin Lead on April 09, 2005, 11:33:57 PM

knife while using the taunt command and/or spraypainting the ground under it

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: E-Fonzarelli on April 10, 2005, 12:36:20 AM

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An egg can take a full LMG clip.  If I see an egg next to a res node I'l know its a gorge and wait for it to hatch.  Then I kill it when it has less life.

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the only bad thing about that is that if it were me, I would drop the RT very quickly then yell at my teammates to protect the RT

which has worked about 60% of the time in the past - which is pretty good odds

so I usually just dump all my shells into the egg with the LM (no matter what lvl) then use the pistol, and by that time i'm usually up close and personal and the knife makes its appearence.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: E-Fonzarelli on April 10, 2005, 12:37:45 AM

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Well, if you think about what's faster, just compare it with killing a res node.
Using LMG to kill a res node takes 250 bullets, fired in 25 seconds + ~12 seconds of reload, while using a knife takes 56.4.

PS, Niteowl, or whoever made that unofficial NS manual with the damage calculator, include an "egg" target.

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gotta link to this damage calc?

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Malevolent on April 10, 2005, 03:18:28 PM

http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/comm_manua...eCalculator.htm (http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/comm_manual/basic/damageCalculator.htm)

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: 2_of_8 on April 10, 2005, 07:10:43 PM

I got a great way to kill fades that is wholly related to killing eggs.
Have the fade go skulk/gorge/lerk/onos right in front of you, thus giving you enough time to put whatever you have into it, thereby killing it. Kudos to LochNess for this strat :)

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Guenhwyvar on April 10, 2005, 09:37:42 PM

The egg always gets me :(  

So it's always better to get a few pistol shots in first eh?

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: CryForMe on April 11, 2005, 04:09:39 AM

I much prefer the strat that i saw employed on LM today by none other than your favorite and mine, NSPlayer.
Obviously a NS veteran, he walks into Biodome casually (which happened to be aliens starting hive) at about 5:00 into the game. He sees this curious looking thing on the ground, pink and kinda moving funny. Over voicecomm, as im setting up a PG in furnace i hear "whats this egg looking thing on the ground in this room with all the plants?" 5 people respond with "an egg, shoot it NOW!!!!!111ONE" so of course, NSPlayer doesnt shoot it and instead, responds over voicecomm with "what does an egg do and why should i shoot it? is it gonna blow up?"....silence.....then, mysteriously, 5 seconds later, NSPlayer dies to a fade. Next thing was this: "what the hell was that thing that came out of the egg?!?! it killed me before i could even shoot it!"...silence...then someone, forget who  >:D  , says "we told you to shoot the egg, man."
2 seconds later:
**NSPlayer has left the game.
now THAT is a killer strategy right there folks!!!!!!!!

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: DarkScythe on April 11, 2005, 10:41:05 AM

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I much prefer the strat that i saw employed on LM today by none other than your favorite and mine, NSPlayer.
Obviously a NS veteran, he walks into Biodome casually (which happened to be aliens starting hive) at about 5:00 into the game. He sees this curious looking thing on the ground, pink and kinda moving funny. Over voicecomm, as im setting up a PG in furnace i hear "whats this egg looking thing on the ground in this room with all the plants?" 5 people respond with "an egg, shoot it NOW!!!!!111ONE" so of course, NSPlayer doesnt shoot it and instead, responds over voicecomm with "what does an egg do and why should i shoot it? is it gonna blow up?"....silence.....then, mysteriously, 5 seconds later, NSPlayer dies to a fade. Next thing was this: "what the hell was that thing that came out of the egg?!?! it killed me before i could even shoot it!"...silence...then someone, forget who  >:D  , says "we told you to shoot the egg, man."
2 seconds later:
**NSPlayer has left the game.
now THAT is a killer strategy right there folks!!!!!!!!

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that's just....
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....sad...
i can't even.. ugh.
nevermind. this boggles the mind  v_v

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: SlickWill on April 11, 2005, 11:08:40 AM

That dude is an ass.  He has a vet icon and all, which he turns off and acts retarded on the server. >_<

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Malevolent on April 11, 2005, 02:00:50 PM

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That dude is an ass.  He has a vet icon and all, which he turns off and acts retarded on the server. >_<

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Vet icons don't exist now.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: E-Fonzarelli on April 11, 2005, 02:39:21 PM

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That dude is an ass.  He has a vet icon and all, which he turns off and acts retarded on the server. >_<

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Vet icons don't exist now.

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go play on the "vet" server  - every one of em has one

edit - but thinking about it, some were different colored for vets with reserved, so i'm guessing thats a server operated thing

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Reckless on April 11, 2005, 02:59:11 PM

Eh. Goes to show you should always shoot first and ask questions later.

Title: Killing eggs
Post by: Malevolent on April 11, 2005, 08:52:04 PM

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That dude is an ass.  He has a vet icon and all, which he turns off and acts retarded on the server. >_<

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Vet icons don't exist now.

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edit - but thinking about it, some were different colored for vets with reserved, so i'm guessing thats a server operated thing

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/me agrees

If the vet icons were still enabled officially, you would see a lot more of them (quite a bit on LM actually).