Overly Chatty Penguins
The Ready Room => General => Topic started by: admojostrator on April 24, 2004, 10:13:01 AM
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Does anyone have any tips when it comes to aiming? I have always lined up the horizional lines of the xhairs on my targets shoulders. Something I have been working on recently, is just using the the top vertical line of the xhairs. I suppose I have noticed some improvement. Is there really such a thing as Aiming in 1.6!?
P.S I never spray....well sometimes w/ the awp or scout! :)
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It's random! Random I tells ya! I notice I seem to get headshots just fine from across the map, but standing two feet from an AFK, I can't kill him in one shot! AAAR!
Of course, I'm a total CS nubz0r. So you may want to wait until Radeon comes along and blesses us with his knowledge.
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It's random! Random I tells ya! I notice I seem to get headshots just fine from across the map, but standing two feet from an AFK, I can't kill him in one shot! AAAR!
Of course, I'm a total CS nubz0r. So you may want to wait until Radeon comes along and blesses us with his knowledge.
Agreed! Completely random! The same thing happens to me and I don't consider myself a nubcake. I will wait until the CS Sage graces us w/ his knowledge!
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Spray and pray either at the feet or above the head, seems to get me plenty of headshots :D. Also short bursts seem to be much much much more accurate with *every* gun olo.
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The best thing to know when your playing CS is to take short, controlled bursts. This makes for your gun to have a lot less recoil, giving you a great deal more accuracy
If you want to put even more into your shots, its good to crouch when your shooting. Since your center of gravity is lower, you have more control firing your wpn.
And if you want to put finess into your shot, fire those controlled burst towards the upper part of your enemy's body. That way, if a bullet strays from the head(which should be in the dead center of your crosshair), you'll have a chance of hitting the torso as well. If you aim for the lower body, it could take up to 9 mp5 bullets to take down an enemy.
P.S. You should NEVER spray with the following gunz (unless at point blank)
-AK-47
-MP5 Navy
-P90 (or pretty much any smg)
-Para (you'll never land a hit with this if you dont use above firing techniques)
-M4A1 (possible with silencer(adds accuracy) but not recommended)
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try aim for the knees and take a 3-5 round burst, try to aim low and burst fire
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P.S. You should NEVER spray with the following gunz (unless at point blank)
-AK-47
-MP5 Navy
-P90 (or pretty much any smg)
-Para (you'll never land a hit with this if you dont use above firing techniques)
-M4A1 (possible with silencer(adds accuracy) but not recommended)
i disagree with the NEVER part. spray works, just gradually aim lower as you spray.
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I really dislike spraying in general. Unless someone suprises me i never spray. Too non-accurate
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I spray regularly and I randomly get headshots, seems to workout fine for me.... Also I never put the crosshair deadcenter over someones head because my bullets never go where I want them too blargle! I suggest aiming slightly off, either above or lower seems to work best for me, because then with the right gun you can burst a little longer :D(if aiming lower).
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I constantly use spraying techniques with the MP5 Navy at considerable distances. During sprays, it is quite precise, but not accurate (for clarification on the difference between accuracy and precision, see this (http://webphysics.iupui.edu/NH/Projects/TEAMS%5B2%5D/err6.htm) article). Due to this characteristic, all that is needed is to move your cursor down to adjust for it's lack of accuracy. By doing this, you can score a ton of bullets into their chest, and possibly hit their head a few times as well. The trick is just to learn how much to adjust your aim during the spray.
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Don't spray with the MP5 ? It's the best spraying gun in the game ! Of course, over long distance, you better burst fire, but short and middle distance, spray is still going to hit pretty good.
P-90 ? If you want to play seriously, don't even buy that gun.
Same for para. (It can be pretty accurate, though, if you use single shots. Bursting with that gun is not recommended either, because it gets unaccurate too quick, even with small bursts of fire. The first shot, however, always hits the crosshair's middle, and if that shot is a headshot, it will always kill.)
AK-47, you never want to spray with that gun, only pointblank, as Lancer said.
M4A1 is a little better there, the spraying distance is better than the AK-47's.
Sometimes, spraying is just too tempting. Your job is to modify that sometimes, you only want to spray when you have a good chance of hitting with that gun you have there.
Also, the UMP 45 is a great gun alternative, because it's got this "man-stopping-effect", which means that if you hit your target, it will be slowed down considerably, even more so than with other guns (almost complete stop), which makes it alot easier to land further hits.
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I'll let you in on a few of my secrets..
1. AK47 - short round bursts depending on distance.. long long range cut it down to single round bursts usually aiming for neck or head. semi long range you can do a 2-3 round burst aiming for upper-chest or neck. close range learning to control the AK spray is somthing that takes a LONG time to master, but once you get it down you can do about a 6-10 round spray and pwn.
2. M4A1 - it goes about the game as the AK short round bursts for long range, upclose spraying is like a 12-15 round spray because the gun is way accurate for spray. any longer distance i'd suggest 1-5 round bursts whichever you feel more comfortable with.
3. When using the AK/M4A1 learning to strafe walk can help your aim at first.. when you strafe walk side to side using the AK or M4A1 your crosshair will not widen like when you're running side to side, this also works with the scout.
4. as far as SMGs go, each have different recoils and bursts that can be applied for long range, upclose they are pretty much spray machines. its all just a matter learning the recoil for the guns.
Thats about all the insight I care to share right now B)
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there's actually a trick with the AK-47 one of my friends learned; the 'randomness' of this particular gun goes in a certain direction so you can actually spray and still be accurate if you move your mouse down at the right speed while holding that fire button down... unless they changed it from 1.0 onwards o.O
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that would eliminate most of the recoil, ne?
I find that low sensitivity helps if you're going for all headshots. I have mine set to 1.35
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personally, i would just jump in some random server and stand next to a wall and open your gun up on it, i think some people would be suprised to see what it does
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I myself use most of the techniques above, even the one Gem stated. The only problem I'm having is that I've gotten to the point where I'm not even bursting as much anymore, it's all just single shots (bad, bad, I don't get as many kills because of this) :(
This seems to be a really big problem for me when scoped on the AUG and the T "version" of it (can't remember the name, but it's an automatic scope one, not that 5000 rifle either)
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mastering the single burst is hard though, if you can get it down to neck and head against your opponents it will be well worth it. the bad thing about learning spray and being good with it is you run out of ammo very quickly. spraying through the door of aztec for example or the garage of office.
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Hafaf, the 'randomness' of every guns bullets tend to go in the same places randomly, just gotta know where the bullets will go for the gun ;).
GG cone of fire.
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i try to aim at the head/neck/shoulders part almost always, i duno why but cs hands out headshots like a mofo... either i get lucky and land a few hits to chest and/or head or i get killed :D ... all part of the game
( weirdest thing ive ever seen tho was a guy standing next to a wall , then a guy sprays him with bullets, then i saw an outline of the guys body on the wall with bullets while he ran off with over 80 hp :D , neatest thing ever ... )
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This seems to be a really big problem for me when scoped on the AUG and the T "version" of it (can't remember the name, but it's an automatic scope one, not that 5000 rifle either)
You mean the Sig-55something.
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For scouting ( i used to be the master at taking out a team of 8-10 kids agasint me with it and my usp/deagle)
if you use the standard 1,2,3 for weapons always have your pointer and pinky near or on the 1 and 3 buttons, fire a shot then quickly swithch to knife and move behind somethnig, quickly switch back and repeat. If your new to it i dont suggest aiming before the head, you have to somehwhat predict where the player is moving
and NEVEr, EVER, EVER DUCK or sit in 1 spot with the scout, it is meant to be quick, whorish, and cheap, when you shoot/switch to knife and hide sometimes they cant see what hit them. increase your sensitivity to about 8-11 for less mouse movment. Im going to get bac into CS sometime, ill gladly teach you to master t3h sc0ut!! :)
(PS. Dont Switch to knife TOO quickly, otherwise the shot doesnt register ;) , just a quick and useful tip)
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I find that low sensitivity helps if you're going for all headshots. I have mine set to 1.35
You must be insane. my sensitivity is at 12-13 all the time.
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I play at 6.5-7.5, i'd like to increase but i'm too use to my sens for sprayAK
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Well sens is all mouse dependant too, like this mouse here I like the sens to be at about 18, but with my optical I am more comfortable at 16. Different mouses different sensitivities!
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Well sens is all mouse dependant too, like this mouse here I like the sens to be at about 18, but with my optical I am more comfortable at 16. Different mouses different sensitivities!
heh is that like different strokes for different folks ^_^
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Diffrent beats for diffrent meats....okay that was wrong i'm sorry
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tips for aiming?
olo just use h5x!
actually on a more on topic note, I would have to agree with the people who use the lower sensitivitys simply becuase I watched a friend of mine who is insane at CS who has an obscenely low sensitivity and it went something like this:
me: dude your sensitivity is "hella" low
him: it's like that for a reason, it's easier to get headshots, see that head right there?
me: [staring at screen] uhh no
him: *shoots ak* *gets headshot* [the map was dust2, the person was at least 100 feet away down the long corridor, there was only a frickin pixel of head showing but he still saw him and shot him from days away]
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I think my mouse sens is at 20, using an optical... heck, I think I use 18-20 for every HL game I play, heh.
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Bleh, you all are crazy. I go more towards Radeon's sensitivity. I always use 8 for all HL mods, it's just what I'm used to. Way back when, I used 14, but then I (painfully) switched to 8 under a recomendation from a friend. I think it's *much* better.
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Bleh, you all are crazy. I go more towards Radeon's sensitivity. I always use 8 for all HL mods, it's just what I'm used to. Way back when, I used 14, but then I (painfully) switched to 8 under a recomendation from a friend. I think it's *much* better.
i agree with your sensitivity sati. i used to be at 8 ro 9 all the time. That is, before i started using steam. when i started with steam everything seemed to respond less.
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Holy Smokes!!! Your sensitivities are really high! Everyone rdy for mine? *Drumroll* Actually scratch the drumroll. *7/3 Polyrythym* Ah! much better. 1.055... That is my sensitivity! Believe it or not! Ask Bob he will tell you how fun it really is to play w/ |337 sensitivity!
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Sweet Jesus! i cant believe how low that is. you must have to swipe the mouse 5 times across the desk to get a 90 deg. rotation. Sens. 5 annoys me 1.055 is just ludacris.
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Hafaf, yeah if I lowered my mouse I would have a heart attack because I wouldnt be able to look around one corner then the other without my mouse flying out the window, and I get headshots better with a higher sens, because otherwise its all "OLO MOVE MOUSE 6 TIMES TO AIM FOR HEAD CRAP HE MOVED MOVE IT 4 MORE TIMES BLARGLE!". Maybe if I had a bigger area for my mouse...
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I've been to a few official CS tournaments (never participated) and the best players usually had a 2ft by 2ft mousepad and super low sensitivity. They practically had to move from left to right 3x to turn around....but apparantly if you're serious thats the way to go :blink:
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1.5 for me :)
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I've been to a few official CS tournaments (never participated) and the best players usually had a 2ft by 2ft mousepad and super low sensitivity. They practically had to move from left to right 3x to turn around....but apparantly if you're serious thats the way to go
Thats too hard core for me.
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I've been to a few official CS tournaments (never participated) and the best players usually had a 2ft by 2ft mousepad and super low sensitivity. They practically had to move from left to right 3x to turn around....but apparantly if you're serious thats the way to go
Thats too hard core for me.
^^
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in games where I'm gonna aim a lot I do crank the sensitivity waaaaay down admittedly... helps you keep your shots precise =3
As for the guy who walked off with practically full health that was probably rudeboy XD
He was someone in our university deemed with impossible bullet luck, eventually we started calling the phenomenom 'rudeboy armour' :huh:
once back in beta 5.0 when i was checking out what they'd changed in the weapons, I went full auto at someone with the commando and watched in horror as the bullets drew a perfect symetrical circle around him on the wall o.O
edit: to get across how bad rudeboy was for this, 5 terrorists emptied 2-3 clips each at him at the same time while he was crouched against a wall. It should've been a been a firing squad moment; the Ts had come from the side unexpectadly so he had no cover... nothing... but he killed all 5 and walked off leaving a perfect outline in the giant shadow of bulletdecals and still had full health... and no he doesn't cheat, I was sat next to him messing about on a chair so I saw it happen XD
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So you checked his ex_interp values? ;)
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they're university machines... I was there when he sat down at it and booted up CS without mucking about. In our uni nobody really had their 'own' PC so you could never guarantee which PC you'd be on nor who got a shot of the one you used next. Trust me, rude didn't cheat; he's even played on our PCs in our flat lan and pulled it off =P
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man i set mine to 11, it helps to quickly kill people trying to flank you
anything lower then a 6 seems hardcore to me!
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I use 4.5 B) But as someone stated earlier, it's never the same on different machines, even if the numeric value is the same.
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I think i use 1.5, at least something around it. Before i read this (dunno cleary wich it was) (http://www.csnation.net/view.php/strategy/) guide i had it at ~5 because I tought it would be good too be able to do a 180 fast if they are behind you, but treally, if they get the first shot in ze back you'r screwed.
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I think i use 1.5, at least something around it. Before i read this (dunno cleary wich it was) (http://www.csnation.net/view.php/strategy/) guide i had it at ~5 because I tought it would be good too be able to do a 180 fast if they are behind you, but treally, if they get the first shot in ze back you'r screwed.
Olo dont lie, lots of nubs don't know how to shoot the guns *cough*TAK*cough* olololololoollo :D