How difficult would it be to simply update the flipping site. OK - something went wrong, they said it'd be down 2 days, its 2 months now and we've gotten ONE update. The least they can do write a little something. Only the fan with an addiction equivalent to that of a heroin junkie is going to lose interest real fast.
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Fixed ;D
I could care less where the damn site is as long as they're actually DOING something.
A smaller community is always better, in my opinion.
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Well that's really not what Flayra is thinking, since he's starting his own company and making the game (or some other game) retail and all, then he'd want a larger community so he is more known and makes more money.
I think that was severily run-on.
A smaller community is always better, in my opinion.
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Well that's really not what Flayra is thinking, since he's starting his own company and making the game (or some other game) retail and all, then he'd want a larger community so he is more known and makes more money.
I think that was severily run-on.
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Of course Flayra does not want a smaller community; however it will be a byproduct of the current state of Natural Selection. Obviously he will not sell Natural-Selection to say, valve (like CounterStrike and DoD have been) because that is not the way he does things. I reckon that his first release under Unknown Worlds will be relatively small in scale perhaps something available for order from the website. But hey - perhaps Flayra will snag a great publishing deal (if they even exist anymore) and will go global overnight.
But Jesus, I hope not.
Also realize that Flay is mostly a figurehead now - he has the final say in everything but does not deal with the inner workings of the mod anymore (big fish in a small pond and all that). He has said that NS will never become retail; we can see that he has some interest in keeping the old community together and does not wish to 'sell us out' for that cash that is probably being waved in front of his nose. We'll hope.
How difficult is it to set up one of the IPB news scripts, and give us a post once in awhile saying what's happened since the last update. The changelogs from 1.0->1.1 were nice
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The thing is, they're entirely integrating the site, the forums, the icon databases (CM, PT icons, etc) and god knows whatever else into one big site, it's by no means a small feat.
Add also that rather than just starting afresh with all of this, they're also transferring the epic sized forums database to a new server, and are integrating the existing community into the new setup.
The site was done, and working fine (CM's got a chance to test out the site months and months ago), so i very much doubt that any delays or problems were at all expected, it's all new issues that have cropped up as and when they happen.
Ontop of any bugs, errors, problems or whatever that have occurred during the implementation of the new site, it's also just been christmas and new years, they have families too, they have friends as well, and just because they're not catering for your every need 24/7, doesn't mean they're lazy or incompetant. And yet another issue, they no longer have a dedicated web developer, so all the issues with the site are being tackled by Flayra et al, as WELL as working on the new version and playtesting.
Be patient, the forums will return, the site will be back, yes they missed a deadline, but really, you're acting like a bunch of smack addicts. Go outside, meet up with friends, play NS, go on IRC, anything, just quit whining about the forums.
Grayduck they updated it a few weeks ago
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And that was the ONE update I was speaking of.
What are you talking about, brit? I snagged this exclusive screencap this very morning:
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See? No happy new year! THEY SUCK!
BOYCOTT NS!
i just want to add that there is a difference between deadline and expected point of completion.
anyway...the site will be back when the site will be back, and saying that they should post stuff before that happens won't really do anything :p
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I think more than anything it isn't that they missed their deadline, or if that isn't considered a deadline, the date they said would be 'close' to when the consties could play test.... it's more of them taking for freaking ever and keeping everyone in the dark. As Crispy was saying, it doesn't take that long to update a web site. It needn’t be anything elaborate, just SOMETHING to keep us coming back and to let us know that we're not forgotten.
Esuna - Flayra needs to stop PTing then. Maybe instead of :Ding the game more he can get the site fixed first.
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I can absolutely guarantee that if Flayra was putting all his efforts towards the website there would be an equal number of people who would whine that he's letting the mod die. To all the people bleating that NS is withering away: let Flayra do what Flayra does best. If you're not willing to even do that then why the hell are you all still here anyways?
It makes me angry when people think that Flayra owes them anything :(
Fear not, the site is available to Consti's right now for bug testing, and so far I've had not the first problem. I even found my old UBB account when we moved over the the newer forums LAST time. Now if I can only get the email changed on it...
Anyway, the site looks good, and the forums work fine. That, and a new announcement says that the Consti PT is right around the bend, so keep holding on, it's coming.
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The forums are awesome now, what with only the people that PT or payed to see them being allowed in. It's like the old days, before release. Just one big happy family.
OMG!!!11
They changed my name in the forums!
From "Loke The Sleek Peruvian" i'm now known as "Loke The Sleek Peruv"....
So I need suggestions for a new name... :help: Helpful ones...
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could you not just pull the spaces out of it? or add some 1337 to abreviate words (obviously not literal 1337 since numbers aren't allowed)
im AnarkiThreeXSix on the ns forums... no offense but limiting it to 1 number in your name is SOOOO dumb.
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You can get it changed though, I think. It talks about doing that on the front page of UWE.
OMG!!!11
They changed my name in the forums!
From "Loke The Sleek Peruvian" i'm now known as "Loke The Sleek Peruv"....
So I need suggestions for a new name... :help: Helpful ones...
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Loke; Sleek Peruvian
Sleek Loke
Loke, The Sleek
The Sleek Loke
Peruvian Sleekness
no, their new rules are only 1 number per name.. to stop 1337 speak -_-
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Yeah, when I said that, I meant get it changed to Anarki or something.
Maybe they could've left ns.org running until the UWE site was ready?
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lolfighter wins. Maybe they could have left the forums how they were until they got the new version working instead of letting the community deteriorate for two months.
And yes, we know the UWE team has families and wants to spend time with them, but it takes a few minutes to keep the front page updated. No, I don't need my hand to be held through every step of the development process, but personally I'd appreciate occasional updates about why the community for my favorite game has been shut down for a couple months.
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I'd appreciate you shutting the hell up.
Do you ever read what you type? Do you have any idea how you sound? You're all me me me, take take take, give me more, i'm more important. How about you let the developers have a break over Christmas just like you most likely have done? How about you sit back and let them do the work rather than being some whiner on the sidelines?
And no, the site (the forums, which we all mean) couldn't be left up. The forum databases were also moving servers, to do that they need the database to be static and not changed. If the forum was left open until the day they moved it, you'll find a hell of a lot of posts going missing because the database they transfer is a day or two out of date.
Also, when it comes to server changes and implementation of new systems around old ones, bugs happen, they can only be tackled when they happen, you can't foresee every little bug or error that will occurr, if you could, you'd probably be a millionaire by now.
In short: Shut up.
No diplomacy award for esuna. Like THAT'S gonna surprise anybody.
Brief:
scooter, relax.
esuna, don't overreact.
I'll elaborate on what I was talking about then: As esuna pointed out in IRC, if they left ns.org running while working on uwe.com, uwe.com would be outdated by the time it was running. My point, though, is that the NATURE of ns.org does not change, only the content. Of course, threads, replies, and new users will be added over time, but unless they apply an update to the forums themselves, all that is rather inconsequential. What I thought was this:
They could've taken a backup of ns.org, and worked on getting it to work with uwe.com. Once they had THAT down, they could make the full transition with a fresh backup, what with taking down ns.org and all that. Of course, I may be wrong, but this is how I see it.
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Wouldn't that have been the apropriate development process?
Your not supposed to take a peice of working software down to impliment a patch or improvements? could you imagine if blizzard fried battlenet for 2 monthes?