I wasn't really watching when LB banned him since I was on aliens, but I've seen him on deathcam, I never saw pancaking.
The main problem with pancaking is sort of what Bob said. If you fly up at a lerk you will usually go somewhat above the speed cap. Theres nothing you can do about it, its a bug in the game. If you try and say, fly up in Triad to get to the vent up there, you'll go faster then you should be able to, but there isn't anything the lerk can do about it.
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That's the basic gist of it. Does this mean a lerk can't try and dodge as much as he can until the cap is fixed?
funny how he WAS warned before, and MULTIPLE admins said its pancaking.
I saw it, and I say its pancaking. and you also ADMITTED to pancaking. so dont come in here and say you wernt when you SAID YOURSELF YOU DO IT!
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This is a discussion on pancaking itself, not on whether I do or not (Nor would I admit to doing so, because pancaking is a blatant exploit of which I have no need to do). I'd love to see a quote in which I said I did such, because it doesn't exist. I'm attempting to define pancaking here so I stop hearing "OGM PANCAKER" every time I nail a HMGer that managed to land 2 out of 45 bullets on me. Flying up and down != pancaking, despite what you may think. I recorded a couple of demos while redford and grayduck were speccing me that I'll link to later.
I didn't know being banned from servers meant that you did something. Many players get banned from servers for "aimbotting" after they kill about 30 skulks that run in a straight line, doesn't mean they aimbot. Saying I've been banned from other servers for doing something isn't an admission of guilt. In fact when they find a server that doesn't automatically ban them for having a good score, they most likely will play there a lot. People don't like to be outskilled, and where it's "hacks" "cheats" "exploits" or what-have-you, people make up reasons to get rid of anyone better than them. That clearly isn't the case here. Seriously, I'm not doing anything wrong, I just want to play and have a good time. I'm sorry if you get frustrated that I can't easily be killed, make a challenge out of it. A lot of players I know from outside LM that also play here gang up and try to kill me, and we have loads of fun.
Note most servers don't even know what pancaking is, much less ban for it. I usually get banned for "scripts" or "lerk cheats" or some other random crap. That was simply my way of saying I like playing here because I've been treated fairly in the past by several admins, namely DHP, Wither, Bob, HD, and Redford.
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you know i've always been kinda iffy about your playstyle. its surely all knowledge of lerk, but the question is are you abusing the lack of a vert cap at some points, especially since you are getting celerity? i mean, i perfectly understand celerity is required for getting around, but the way you fly vertically with it made you literally invulnerable because the hitbox did not follow the model AT ALL, nor is it realistic to ask people to follow a speed-bursting model(you can change speeds very fast as lerk going up and down, which is the problem)
but as i saw yesterday, you seem to have cooled the vertical abuse, which if you do keep up, i have no problem with your lerk since its truely not exploiting then.
also, the question is not how you view your playing, but how we view it. hate to say that, but it seems you don't know that yet. don't mean to be hostile with it, just making that clear. as well, we are allowed to change opinions as we go :p just because i was kind of iffy earlier, its built up over time, but continue as you have yesterday and im fine with it
I didn't know being banned from servers meant that you did something.
If I was the type of person who had a sig...
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Do you pub anywhere else? If you have any skill whatsoever it's entirely possible to be banned simply for being better than the admins on a server. I've been banned from voogru, g4b2s, and numerous pub clan's servers for things such as "aimbotting" or "scripting" merely because I pretty much destroyed the other team by myself because they were pretty much totally incapable of playing the game at anything but their own level. Do you think I aimbot? Because using your logic being banned from another server means that I must aimbot. Remember Necrosis, I'm one of the few clan players that would actually have a logical argument with you, drop the attitude with me please.
We already know there are admins who will ban someone for being a good player, but you have to understand that whoever runs the server has the perogative to do as they wish. They're providing you with free service by allowing you to play there, and what they do is up to them. If you don't like a particular server, or you aren't able to play on a specific server for whatever reasons, just let it go; there are always other servers to play on. Whining to us that you've been banned from other servers is pointless because nobody here has any control over what the other server operators do or how they act. The rules and guidelines set here are set for a reason, but that doesn't mean you can't play here and enjoy yourself.[snapback]32182[/snapback]
That is entirely beside the point. His comment, "I didn't know being banned from servers meant that you did something," was in response to a previous argument that his ban from numerous other servers meant he must have been doing something wrong.
I was just commenting on the irony, I mean you generally have to do "something" to be banned for it.
Regardless of how "real" the infraction is. And yes I have to agree getting kicked/banned for SKILL alone is generally a pain in the backside.
GG BF1942, AvP, and AvP2 - personal experiences, stories on request.
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consider yourself requested
That is entirely beside the point. His comment, "I didn't know being banned from servers meant that you did something," was in response to a previous argument that his ban from numerous other servers meant he must have been doing something wrong.
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I understood the argument well enough the first time, and I understood it even more when TheAdj took the time to explain himself to me on IRC. I don't need anyone else to explain it for me, I was merely stating the fact that we have no control over what happens on other servers while suggesting the server here as an alternative.
Add a power gorge + lerk lift and its all over.
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Yar, I've started lerk lifting gorges and pretty much being unkillable, hspray+cara+cel=gg
Add a power gorge + lerk lift and its all over.
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Yar, I've started lerk lifting gorges and pretty much being unkillable, hspray+cara+cel=gg
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Ooooh, I love being lifted by a lerk and then fly a bombing run across MS :lol: :D